I'd say a sub 20 5K for men and a sub 23 5K for women. If you're running a 19:xx 5K, you're a hobby runner, not a hobby jogger. And if you're running close to a 13 minute 5K, you're an elite runner, not a hobby runner.
I'd say a sub 20 5K for men and a sub 23 5K for women. If you're running a 19:xx 5K, you're a hobby runner, not a hobby jogger. And if you're running close to a 13 minute 5K, you're an elite runner, not a hobby runner.
10:00 and slower = jogging
9:00-10:00 = very slow running
8:00-9:00 slow running
7:00-8:00 running
6:00-7:00 fast running
5:00-6:00 very fast running
5:00 and faster = spriting
Oh so you want to bring up the "real runner" thing again? Here are the ways one can be a real runner:
1) Boston qualifier + competitor
2) Consistent top 10% age group finishes
3) Forward progress rule - someone who doesn't meet the above criteria but is improving year-over-year, i.e. they care about their times.
Someone who finishes in the mid pack and ISN'T optimizing their training to improve their times is pure hobbyjogger.
10/10
These threads always do well
If you aren't making a living then it's a hobby. That's virtually all of us except the pros who post anonymously.
I think connecting with competitive peers makes the difference.
Under 3:00 does not really count as jogger to me.
It is always a hobby unless one does it for a living, therefore becoming professional. Barring that, time wise it would depend on sex and age. Probably in the 15's for 5k, 32's for 10k on the roads. 2:40's for the marathon. That would be for a fit male in the prime of life.
the actual answer wrote:
If you aren't making a living then it's a hobby. That's virtually all of us except the pros who post anonymously.
Exactly! I've run a sub 17 5K, and running is my hobby. But I'm not a hobby jogger, I'm a hobby runner. The same is not true for someone who finishes a 5K in 30 minutes.
I'm waiting for the trolls to say anything more than OQT.
Why is this question even important?
Suzy: I've started running again and I'm doing 40 mpw in prep for my first 10k since college.
Bill: congratulations but remember that you're still just a hobby jogger.
As others have said, if you're not getting paid it's a hobby.
As for the difference between jogging and running, I think that's a question of mindset and effort, not a specific pace. If you're just out going nice and easy to enjoy the day and stay healthy, that's jogging (and there's nothing wrong with that!). If you're training and putting in the effort to build speed, endurance, etc. then you're running, even if your pace is what others would consider "slow."
(You'll find that for most people who are willing to put a specific number to "jogging" vs. "running," surprise-surprise, the dividing line is just a little slower than their pace.)
kma wrote:
As others have said, if you're not getting paid it's a hobby.
As for the difference between jogging and running, I think that's a question of mindset and effort, not a specific pace. If you're just out going nice and easy to enjoy the day and stay healthy, that's jogging (and there's nothing wrong with that!). If you're training and putting in the effort to build speed, endurance, etc. then you're running, even if your pace is what others would consider "slow."
(You'll find that for most people who are willing to put a specific number to "jogging" vs. "running," surprise-surprise, the dividing line is just a little slower than their pace.)
^This.
It´s exactly the same with "super shoes". They miraculously start working just at their race pace. Anything slower and the shoes feel awkward.
Run for your country.
We all have our own perspective. I say 15 minutes for guy and 18:00 for a woman. But I won't argue with many of you who have lower standards.
Faster than Sham 69
My current 7k race pace is 2 minutes slower than my marathon pace from 10yr ago. I would equate the effort for each of them.
Can you judge me?
Not knowing the pace, I likely would classify both as hobby joggers.
If you are a professional runner you are fast enough to not be a hobby jogger, the moment you are no longer fast enough to make a living from it you become hobby status or you give up running.
How fast do YOU think you need to be to not be a hobby jogger? That's the answer...for you. The whole idea is a construct.
I’ll bite.
What is a jogger?
Maybe most hobby runners are hobby joggers if they jog as part of their hobby.
I know some people that never jog ever,
but they run regularly. They aren’t nearly as fast as a lot of the hobby joggers I know like myself, but they never jog.
I've always liked Marty Liquori's distinction. A jogger is someone who asks "am I going to run today?" A runner asks "when am I going to run today?".