Fun fact: Massachusetts COVID case #s virtually identical to the same time last year

Correct, cases are the same despite a much more open society. Astute demonstration of the power of vaccination

I suspect cases are becoming meaningless with the advent of available rapid tests. If you are positive and not all that ill, you might have been picked up before, now you just did a home test and have or have not quarantined. "Have not" in a lot of cases I suspect. IOW, we have a LOT of cases (many undetected) right now because:

1. People are increasingly unconcerned, fed up, vaccinated, had covid, etc

2. Are far more cavalier in terms of isolation after contracting covid, especially if only mildly ill and/or have no old age contacts.

Hospitalization will be the meaningful metric going forward. And it will increase because people are dumb (see above) and because vaccine protection clearly wanes. My advice is get vaccinated/boosted and use reasonable caution but generally move on.

Harambe wrote:

Correct, cases are the same despite a much more open society. Astute demonstration of the power of vaccination

I’m not against vaccination. Got my booster a few weeks ago.

I’m against everything EXCEPT voluntary vaccination. Anti-masks, anti-lockdown, anti-mandates, anti-border closures, anti-surveillance testing.

HarambeBangsMyButthole wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Correct, cases are the same despite a much more open society. Astute demonstration of the power of vaccination

You're a way better lover than you are at making excuses for ineffective vaccines.

Lol. Thekret admirer <3

I have lived in Massachusetts all my life. My wife refuses to move to New Hampshire, so here in Massachusetts I stay.

The know-it-alls and true believers (we have an abundance of them) put their head in the sand and ignore reality. They are on a never ending treadmill of "boosters" and it bothers them that they cannot compel every adult in the state to join them.

I remain happily unvaccinated.

Massachusetts State of Emergency declared: 2020-03-10 Days since: 630

First mRNA shots administered in the US: 2020-12-14 Days since: 351

Boston guy wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Correct, cases are the same despite a much more open society. Astute demonstration of the power of vaccination

I’m not against vaccination. Got my booster a few weeks ago.

I’m against everything EXCEPT voluntary vaccination. Anti-masks, anti-lockdown, anti-mandates, anti-border closures, anti-surveillance testing.

You're against like, testing waste water?

And have you ever, or do you now, support the idea that employers have a duty to provide a reasonably safe workplace?

serghdlxkf wrote:

Hospitalization will be the meaningful metric going forward..

Yeah, most nonCovidphobes have been saying that for almost a year. And yet here we are, still panicking every time cases tick up a few percent, and saying “someday we will unmask, but now is not the right time,” on and on, over and over…

serghdlxkf wrote:

And have you ever, or do you now, support the idea that employers have a duty to provide a reasonably safe workplace?

People have had ample opportunity to get a free and highly effective vaccine. That’s “reasonable safe” enough. Employers need not do anything more.

For what it's worth, Massachusetts is second in Covid tests per capita, so they're probably catching more positives than many other states.

Also if one is inclined to argue that "deaths from covid" counts are substantially inflated by inclusion of "deaths with covid", cherry pick MA for supporting data:

https://monkeystyping.neocities.org/MassachusettsWeeklyExcessAndCovidDeaths.png

I forgot Delta I’m dumb

Delta is 2x as transmissible or more so interventions that worked against other strains are less effective.

There’s so many confounders this stat from the OP is kinda dumb but good troll

serghdlxkf wrote:

Boston guy wrote:

I’m not against vaccination. Got my booster a few weeks ago.

I’m against everything EXCEPT voluntary vaccination. Anti-masks, anti-lockdown, anti-mandates, anti-border closures, anti-surveillance testing.

You're against like, testing waste water?

And have you ever, or do you now, support the idea that employers have a duty to provide a reasonably safe workplace?

You can get a vaccine. Someone not getting a vaccine has nothing to do with a reasonably safe work place.

Harambe wrote:

I forgot Delta I’m dumb

Delta is 2x as transmissible or more so interventions that worked against other strains are less effective.

There’s so many confounders this stat from the OP is kinda dumb but good troll

You don’t find it curious that despite all of these varying “confounders,” the weekly virus saturation is identical to within 1% year-over-year? That doesn’t suggest some kind of viral equilibrium that we are powerless to control?

serghdlxkf wrote:

Boston guy wrote:

[quote]Harambe wrote:

Correct, cases are the same despite a much more open society. Astute demonstration of the power of vaccination

I’m not against vaccination. Got my booster a few weeks ago.

I’m against everything EXCEPT voluntary vaccination. Anti-masks, anti-lockdown, anti-mandates, anti-border closures, anti-surveillance testing.

You're against like, testing waste water?

If you can identify Covid in waste, why did we need to stick stuff up noses to see if we had Covid?

Harambe wrote:

I forgot Delta I’m dumb

Delta is 2x as transmissible or more so interventions that worked against other strains are less effective.

There’s so many confounders this stat from the OP is kinda dumb but good troll

Delta is yesterday's news.

It's the Moronic strain in the current fear campaign

Boston guy wrote:

Harambe wrote:

There’s so many confounders this stat from the OP is kinda dumb but good troll

You don’t find it curious that despite all of these varying “confounders,” the weekly virus saturation is identical to within 1% year-over-year? That doesn’t suggest some kind of viral equilibrium that we are powerless to control?

To me this just screams “endemic level.” This is the normal stable level of the virus now. Which is good news! Hospitals in MA are in perfectly fine shape, deaths are low, let’s fully open up and ditch masks and forget COVID even exists, just like we do with every other constantly-circulating nuisance virus.

Having nearly 1000 people (900-ish, currently, MA) perpetually in the hospital with the SAME infections disease is not sustainable nor should any civilized society accept that as a normal thing.

Further, removing what interventions are in place, those numbers will go higher. Possibly much higher.

Denialists never want to consider how bad it might have been, might be, or might get. Lots and lots of people ARE acting sensibly and trying NOT to get or spread this illness. Consider that for once.

Harambe wrote:

Correct, cases are the same despite a much more open society. Astute demonstration of the power of vaccination

Or the failure of masking, lockdowns, and the vaxx do make one bit of difference.

*yawn*

Multiple posters on multiple threads have made clear that "cases" (which are just officially-recorded positive tests) are a nearly-meaningless stat.

What counts are hospitalizations and deaths.

. . . Stats that the OP seems to have avoided. Well, those probably didn't fit his narrative.