You guys don't worry that distance running is speeding up the aging process?

People tell us we look so young because they know we want to hear it. We listen to them because we like to clown ourselves. I have a neighbor who has that I look so young think going on. He exercises but he looks one step from the grave too.

The Turpin kids are not a good example, not the least because living like them is out of question anyway. They rarely went out, so they got little sun exposure.

They were malnourished, so you are conflating skinny with teenager like looks.

The older girl looks her age to me. The younger one does have tighter shiny skin, but that’s not unusual for 21 year olds. Also, makeup confuses everything.

What you are seeing with these kids is what is done to calfs to make veal. Veal calfs likely have softer weaker tissue compared to animals that get to move around freely. There’s little reason to think that their skin heath is any better because of lack of activity.

Hey Fisky wrote:

A few questions for you:

1. Any worries about taking the mega-dose of Vitamin D? I take 6000 IU a day and I'm a believer. You take more than triple that amount though.

2. Any thoughts on Vitamin K MK7 to go in combination with the Vit. D? My sources tell me the K is necessary to balance the D somehow. (not pretending I understand that).

3. Are your books available? Link?

1. I increased from 7000 IU/day to 20,000 when Delta arrived. I test D level every 8 months or so. The RDA on D is controversial. It could be MUCH higher than the recommended RDA. We know it can be toxic at extremely high levels. Arctic explorers died who ate polar bear liver, which apparently contains over a million IU of D. The articles I've read say D levels should be below 100 or 150. I'm currently at 95. The studies on D show it needs to be at/over 30 to provide a prophylactic and therapeutic effect on covid. It takes about 8 months for D levels to plateau once you start taking it so I'll test every 8 months or so to keep my level near 100.

Studies show that for seniors (me), obese, and Blacks, it's hard to raise D levels even with supplementation. In one early study... since "debunked" because it wasn't double blind, clinical trialed, Big Pharma backed... the risk of severe covid was 17 times greater for patients with D levels below 20 versus above 30. The problem with these studies is that it's very hard to get D levels over 30 naturally unless you're a light-skinned, young person who lives in the sun.

While over 100 vitamin D clinical trials are underway, I don't expect any major announcements because most of the studies are giving subjects vitamin D AFTER they've been admitted to the hospital and it's a relatively low dose... 4,000 IU, for example.

2. Vitamin K helps with the absorption of vitamin D. The Kirkland brand was a lot cheaper than the Life Extension D3+K2 so I thought I'd just take more D3. My D level with 7,000 IU + K2 was 82. My D level a year later at 20,000IU and no K2 is 95.

3. Thanks for asking. My book is 200 Tips Every Runner Should Know. It's available on Amazon as a paperback or ebook. As a veteran runner, you'll know most of the tips, but you'll find a few gems that will help you... and lots of stuff on injury prevention and rehab. The front matter includes testimonials from Olympic Trials qualifiers, age group world record holders, and mid-pack recreational runners.

LetsRun's interviews give you perspective because of how close up they are and because the athletes are unprepared and often just finished a hard effort.

Des Linden at 36 could pass for 50.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-GwBFZZIzs&t=252s&ab_channel=letsrundotcom

Nope, she looks about 36 there.

Ryan Hall aged a lot from 28 to 31. Granted: that's when people normally start to go downhill fast, but I suspect a gazillion miles in Flagstaff accelerated the process. It appears that by bulking up he was able to reverse the aging process in his 30s, and now at 39 he looks better than he did at the tail end of his running career.

28:

https://i.ibb.co/VJkTCkP/ryan-hall-28.png

31:

https://i.ibb.co/7XK7BC3/ryan-hall-31.png

39:

https://i.ibb.co/cYHHVSy/Ryan-hall-39.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFlKMFstkoQ

Because shes not fat she looks old? Ok.

And Re: people talking about old runners who have trouble walking. Meanwhile my 2 neighbors across the street who dont run or exercise much both have had multiple knee/hip surgeries and can barely walk. Both in their 70's they are retired teachers and are out doing yard work all the time. Each year they are less and less mobile. Its sad to watch really. Then there is this guy of the same age down the street that regularly exercises (jogging etc...) and yeah he probably looks his age in the face but hes still chugging along. I know how I'd rather spend my twilight years.

COACH WIZARD 1 wrote:

Guess my age at the upper photo here when this photo was taken. Most runners look younger than their biological age.

www.coachjs.se

My guess 45-50, Is it close?Handsome....!

What would you guess is the age of Seth James DeMoor?

https://dgtzuqphqg23d.cloudfront.net/zBB501EOfZLJQrHgRtF-NydBskZrQYMVwsOy3ZTDWv8-1365x2048.jpg

jamin wrote:

What would you guess is the age of Seth James DeMoor?

https://dgtzuqphqg23d.cloudfront.net/zBB501EOfZLJQrHgRtF-NydBskZrQYMVwsOy3ZTDWv8-1365x2048.jpg

That’s just a bad pic. He could be 30 to 60 in that.

I think Jamin needs to consult his psychologist and psychiatrist. He is not well with the thoughts he is having.

Jalapeno wrote:

I think Jamin needs to consult his psychologist and psychiatrist. He is not well with the thoughts he is having.

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jamin wrote:

Jalapeno wrote:

I think Jamin needs to consult his psychologist and psychiatrist. He is not well with the thoughts he is having.

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It's understandable with your lack of socialization/dating experience to be insecure and worry excessively about stuff like this. Almost anyone can have a picture taken at a certain angle when they are doing things like racing a marathon or taking a dump while constipated and because they're grunting they'll look like they're 60+ years old

jamin wrote:

What would you guess is the age of Seth James DeMoor?

https://dgtzuqphqg23d.cloudfront.net/zBB501EOfZLJQrHgRtF-NydBskZrQYMVwsOy3ZTDWv8-1365x2048.jpg

Easily early 50s (I've never heard of this guy).

He looks so frail & fragile.

He reminds me of a lot of the over 50 runners in a masters running club I once belonged to.

runne wrote:

Serious Guess wrote:

75 years old

Eh, why mock a proud old man’s feel-good thing? Most people would say 50-60. He’s probably actually like 70 in the pic, and that’s his point.

Never understand why people on this site are randomly mean to someone the way they’d never be in real life. In real life, you’d immediately be guarded and anxious that you might guess too high and offend the person who is asking clearly because they feel good about how young they look relative to their age, so you’d guess unrealistically low.

Coach JS is 63 right now (JS will confirm) and when that photo was taken, I think a couple of years ago, he was around 60 or 61 and he looks very good for his age. He’s a little bit overweight for running purposes but in normal life he comes across as very youthful, vigorous and charismatic. He would not have lasted 40 years in the teaching profession, in Sweden, (including teaching students from multicultural backgrounds which can be stressful), if that had not been the case.

Respect.

Aging Old Stiff wrote:

jamin wrote:

What would you guess is the age of Seth James DeMoor?

https://dgtzuqphqg23d.cloudfront.net/zBB501EOfZLJQrHgRtF-NydBskZrQYMVwsOy3ZTDWv8-1365x2048.jpg

Easily early 50s (I've never heard of this guy).

He looks so frail & fragile.

He reminds me of a lot of the over 50 runners in a masters running club I once belonged to.

My point of view is different from yours. I think Seth looks great from a physical standpoint with very low body fat and good muscle definition including pectorals and well-defined abdominals. Yes, he is on the slim side, but he is well balanced and well proportioned and he looks like a guy who could do 10 to 15 pull ups with good form. In comparison to Ed Whitlock who was the fastest over 70 runner, Seth looks much more muscular and stronger than the British Canadian former master record holder. Seth is slim and muscular - who would not want to look like that? Maybe my perspective is biased because I’m slanted towards distance runners who are outliers in terms of physical composition in general.

Yeah...your point of view is much different than mine. I don't think he looks good at all from a physical standpoint. Like I said, I don't know the guy & I'm sure he's an outstanding runner & dedicated athlete. But that body looks old, frail & bit too wiry for me. And face wise he looks in the 50s. I also don't think many women go for that look unless they're are serious runners/athletes themselves.

Being an old stiff who looks like hell from 35 yrs of daily running (people estimate my age at 10-15 yrs older than my actual age), I find fitness trainer Mark Mcilyar's physique one that I envy for. And Mark is 60 freaking years old! This guy looks incredibly good - a real middle-aged muscle man.

https://youtu.be/wLKKVIFt5SQ

If I had Mark's physique & looked as young as he does, I wouldn't have trouble getting dates. As a widower who's looking at getting back in the game (6 yrs now), I've been rejected by dozens of women over the last couple of years. Most say I look like hell & they wouldn't want to date a guy that looked as old as their father. Lol. 🤣

Need to know wrote:

get married once and remain happily married,

Very difficult to achieve, in fact pretty much impossible these days ....

This is as good a thread as any to challenge with this new hypothesis, which could explain old-runner syndrome too.

"Distance runners get skinny not because of calories spent, but because of malnutrition."

Here's the deal. Your marathon star going 100+ mpw is doing probably two runs a day. What happens to the food this runner eats? It goes right through, compared to a more sedentary person. All those healthy nutrients go into the toilet if not the runner's shorts liner. If they try to eat more, it goes into the shorts liner for sure. This slows down tissue repair and aging commences.

We can see Ryan Hall turn quickly much younger when he stopped running and was suddenly able to digest all his food. It was probably God who told him to retire and stop ruining his health.