Nico is Henrik, out there pushing the envelope, clearing the way for his more talented younger siblings Lex and Leo. The twins are genuine threats to run under 4 minutes this coming track season and certainly will in the spring of '23 gunning for Alan Webb's 3:53. Having an equally-good brother to train with all the time is a huge advantage. Let them run Pre on May 28, 2022 and shoot for Jakob's 3:52 the WR mile for 17 year olds.
Since when is the having to play second fiddle to the doping Norwegians. No the Youngs are not on the same level as the Ingys.
Meant to say since she is the US having to play second fiddle to the…but the doping Ingys are superior to the Youngs.
Funny how Nico has one race slightly below expectations and now people are saying he's washed. I still think Nico is the most talented of all the Young siblings, despite the twins' greater HS success.
Henrik was legit good in his early 20s getting 5th in the Olympic 1500 in London. But he's tailed off since then, married, kids, injuries. Hopefully that isn't Jakob's trajectory too - peak at 21. Filip seems on the down slide too peaking at 23-24 then marriage, kids, etc. Jakob engaged now at 21 so give him 2-3 more years at the top max if his brothers are any guide. As for the Youngs, Lex and Leo already far better than Nico at their ages. Older bro showing the way, giving the younger sibs the instruction manual for legendary status.
Yeah. The Young family are a group of very fine looking fit specimens.
Kobbs Hessler wrote:
Nico is Henrik, out there pushing the envelope, clearing the way for his more talented younger siblings Lex and Leo. The twins are genuine threats to run under 4 minutes this coming track season and certainly will in the spring of '23 gunning for Alan Webb's 3:53. Having an equally-good brother to train with all the time is a huge advantage. Let them run Pre on May 28, 2022 and shoot for Jakob's 3:52 the WR mile for 17 year olds.
Uhm, if you think Nico is our great American hope and supposed to be analogous to Henrik or Jakob, then his 11th place at Natty's reflects just how far removed from reality you are.
At least pick an athlete who can perform at the top level of the sport or maybe an athlete who can compete with the Ingebrigstens right now.
Cole Hocker and Hobbs Kessler are both more accomplished and can actually race with the best in the world and are the same age group as Jakob right now ( same as Nico, but nowhere close to those three)
Henrik = Nico?
stupid comparrison!
Right now, Nico isn't any better than Casey Clinger, Charlie Hicks, or any of the other 10 guys faster than him right now including his own teammates. How is Nico Young supposed to be the "best" in the U.S. when he isn't even the best on his own team?
Jakob was challenging the best in the world, including the very best from Africa at an early age.
Nico was challenging the best of American HS athletes at age 17 but not before. Now he's trying to be among the best in the NCAA but not quite there yet, let alone the best in the US (He's not beating Chelimo or Mantz anytime soon) so why would you even try and and compare to Ingebrigstens?
Not on a world level. Just 3 brothers who will probably be some of the best Americans over next 10 years. I get the comparison. I think we have had 2 other sets of 3 brothers in past 10 years.
judge of you wrote:
Not on a world level. Just 3 brothers who will probably be some of the best Americans over next 10 years. I get the comparison. I think we have had 2 other sets of 3 brothers in past 10 years.
Can you name the other sets of brothers that were anywhere near the level of the Youngs? The Mastalirs, McChesneys and Assumas all had 2 under 9:00, but were still not at the level of the Youngs. Accept for Bill McChesney, the Youngs (Nico already is) will be far better in college.
Affolder and McGorty.
93212 wrote:
Funny how Nico has one race slightly below expectations and now people are saying he's washed. I still think Nico is the most talented of all the Young siblings, despite the twins' greater HS success.
Nico and Jakob are on different planets. Nico had great coaching in HS and responded well, so he got tons of hype. His brothers appear to have similar levels of talent.
Jakob would have destroyed the field at NCAA XC at age 19.
We shall see if they have the speed of the Ingrebridstens. Henrik ran 3:38 pre-super spikes when he was 19. Filip with a 1:48/3:38 in his age 20 season. Jakob of course in a different stratosphere. Yes Gjert says they are not fast, but they are relative to many runners.
If the Youngs aren't running 3:37 or faster for 1500 by 2024, most likely they project to 5K-10K+ runners unlike the Ingrebridstens.
I doubt that the Youngs will ever run 3:37. They will all run 13:15 in their lifetimes though.
Real Dealer wrote:
Affolder and McGorty.
Nico ran a 3000 comparable to 8:34 and it's almost a certainty the twins will run sub-8:40. There is no set of brothers that have ran any where near that level and it might be a hundred years or more before it happens again.
It's far from being a sure thing that an outstanding runner will have brothers with similar ability. Bill McChesney was close to being world class but Steve (9:04) and Tom (8:53) didn't accomplish much at Oregon. A third brother, Ken, ran 9:30 (?). The was a big gap in talent between the Torres twins.
Real Dealer wrote:
I doubt that the Youngs will ever run 3:37. They will all run 13:15 in their lifetimes though.
I mean 13:15 is a nice time for a HM/Marathon runner. It is not competitive on the world stage for anyone racing on the Track. So, if that's really the ceiling the best hope is they can translate that into being 2:05-2:07 type marathoners. But they wouldn't be comparable to the Ingrebridstens in terms of being competitive for world medals.
No. Even Henrik was an Olympian. Nico is washed.
McGorty 7:36 and 13:06. Likely that none of the Youngs ever do that.
Tougher than running wrote:
McGorty 7:36 and 13:06. Likely that none of the Youngs ever do that.
3:36/3:53 as well.
Tougher than running wrote:
McGorty 7:36 and 13:06. Likely that none of the Youngs ever do that.
How could you know that? You can tell by looking at them?
Yes. They have a youtube channel and everything. I completely agree with this.
I mean gold medal in the olympics and all the accomplishments that Jakob has done will be tough to duplicate, but they seem to be the best Young runners we have.