CA State Meet Saturday — How many Newbury Park boys can break the Woodward Park course record: 0, 1, 2, 3, or 4?

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German Fernandez is the CA GOAT!

I'm going to say zero. Nico and Daschbach were side by side the entire race in Clovis 2019, and didn't get it. Daschbach went sub-4 in track and Nico is who he is. I'm not saying there's no chance one or even more than one guy gets the record (there definitely is!), but German's record is straight up amazing. Will be fun to see tomorrow.

Btw, it's a different discussion, but German doing it solo was ridiculous regardless of what happens tomorrow! I honestly think he was the greatest US high school runner ever, regardless of what happens tomorrow or what guys like Verzbikas and others did.

I wouldn't be shocked if Colin Sahlman goes under, but there's no way it's gonna be anyone other than him. Even then, I don't think he will break it. Fernandez's 14:24 is borderline invincible. If the Newbury Park guys all have perfect races tomorrow, Colin 14:27, Lex 14:29, Leo 14:35, Aaron 14:38, Appleford 14:55, Doshi 15:06.

Great post and info, will be eager to see the results.

I think either 0 or 3, with the younger Sahlman having to wait his turn. Based on the early season times at the same course, I would be surprised if the Young's don't beat their brother's old time. And to think they have another year left of high school XC!

After this year’s Clovis Newbury Park coach stated he thought his runners should have gone out faster.

GF: mile 4:28 2m: 9:12 last mile 4:39 14:24.

NBP: mile: 4:37 2k: 9:29 and CS ran his last mile in 4:27ish. 14:29.

If NBP goes out at GF pace will they be able to maintain it or accelerate? Or will they pay the price?

Going out at GF pace and closing at CS pace then the winning time will be 14:12,

As you all know on these boards I’m a big GF fan, but that old saying records are meant to be broken,

The Newbury Park boys race is at 12:30 and right now it's listed as a high of 63, 0-5% humidity, and bluebird clear skies. I'm going to say no if it gets much warmer than that. To much sunshine to warm anyone of these guys up over the course. The best times we see on the track in the world are at night and I"ve seen many studs come into Fresno over the years and not run as well in the sunny or warmer conditions. It's to bad they were not racing in one of the earlier times slots like 9am or so. That being said it would have been awesome for German to have someone to run with when he was still around. NP is fortunate they will have a minimum group of 5 to help each other out through the Dark Side of the course (miles 1-2 where the are WAY fewer spectators). German just spit everyone out and kept going.

Let's root for history though. Things I"m looking for. Appleford as their #5 guy and if he goes under 14:45. That will whoop their team time record. Also, I would love to see Aaron Sahlman be a tad more efficient/conservative through 2 miles. Is he running out front by the coach's design? I have a feeling we have not seen his best running yet.

Also, Germanmissile...you are missing a lot of other times on that list from the last 20 years. I saw a list of the 2010s best times vs. Newbury Park and Newbury Park takes them.

The funny thing is that it was much warmer the afternoon that German broke the record. Such an incredible performance.. but we found out that German seemed to run most of his best races solo.

The Clovis race cemented their status as best HS team of all time. With no big nationals on the schedule I wouldn't be surprised if they pointed all season to this and just let it rip. Very excited to see what they can do.

All are possible I think one will beat Nico’s time, likely Colin, but not German’s. I could see 14:26 or so. The other things like team time, points and margin of victory likely will be theres.

1. GF was so dang amazing. It’s a gosh darn pity he wasn’t able to continue to develop in adulthood. What a waste.

2. I see the NP boys ran mt sac in cheaterflys. If any of them beat GF’s mark wearing the clown shoes it doesn’t count. Sorry.

Healthy running to all

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1. GF was so dang amazing. It’s a gosh darn pity he wasn’t able to continue to develop in adulthood. What a waste.

2. I see the NP boys ran mt sac in cheaterflys. If any of them beat GF’s mark wearing the clown shoes it doesn’t count. Sorry.

Healthy running to all

They don't wear those shoes at Woodward Park. Lots of runners were those at Mt Sac became the course sucks and will destroy your legs.

Is there a live stream?

Runninglane is much deeper than NXN ever was.

It’s not going to be too warm. It will either be 59 degrees or 60 degrees. In the past, it’s gotten up to the 70s in the afternoon and Clovis Invite has been hot. This year is different. The later races will have less humidity (thus less air resistance) and will be theoretically faster. I’m usually on board for cooler weather, but 59 degrees is optimal for a 5k. Also, Newbury park weather has been in the 70s so they’re well adapted to it.

It’s going to be close, but every factor is going to be optimal for them to get the record. Perfect weather, the course is in unbelievable condition thanks to a lot of hard work, there’s going to be an electric energy all day, and they have 4 of them to battle it out. I’m going with 1 of them breaks it.

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Is there a live stream?

want to watch wrote:

Is there a live stream?

MileSplitCA will have a livestream of the finish line only, though that’s more than they normally have for CIF State:

First race starts at 8:30 a.m. PST.

…also, will Newbury be even stronger next year than this year? 3 of the top 4 are Juniors. Their #6 (or #5, we will find out today) is a Soph and their #7 (who was their #5 early in the season) is also a junior.

…so whatever time they run this year should get crushed next year.

Fast conditions?

First race was won in 15:04. Gibson, in second, ran 15:12, which is 11s faster than he went at Clovis

Martinez, Newbury #7 man, was 8s faster than Gibson at Clovis.

All 7 Newbury below 15?

Second race going out 5s faster in first mile…