Fauci lied, people died. NIH admits to "gain-of-function" research

2600 bro wrote:

energeticlotuseater wrote:

Faucci may have knowingly & repeatedly lied to Congress under oath.

He should not be allowed to just retire and “move on”.

I believe he can get up to seven years in prison and a fine for lying to Congress. Faucci should have his day in court to see if he knowingly did lie.

Sure, political theater and show trials never get old… much more important than focusing on the actual issues!

It’s a waste of time and money but, sure, to humor the weirdos I’ll allow the Wheels if Justice to turn.

Spoiler alert: nothing is gonna happen to Fauci - despite his best attempts otherwise haha.

“Political Theatre” “show trials” “focus on the actual issues”

Congress is currently trying put Steve Bannon on trial and would out Trump on trial if they could.

I do agree though with one thing, this whole COVID thing has turned into one big political theatre. It’s purely political at this point.

TBF they didn't think it would cause GoF! If you do an experiment that you don't think will cause more infectious virus, but it does... that is bad risk management... but technically they didn't fund experiments with the intent of doing GoF.

Nitpicking but there are important distinctions here.

2600 bro wrote:

Lol he probably doesn’t even attend any study sections!

You sure do use the word "probably" a lot.

not even close wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

Yeah it’s a bad look. When you’re in front of Congress you have to have your ducks in a row.

I just don’t assume malice or ulterior motives just general screw up/lack of knowledge.

GoF research is a fine line. In some ways is necessary in some ways it’s idiotic.

A bad look?????

He lied to Congress...twice.

It's the same repeating pattern of rationalized BS from the same repeating people. Deny, and when caught, rationalize it.

same ol, but different wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

Lol he probably doesn’t even attend any study sections!

You sure do use the word "probably" a lot.

Yes only boring dogmatics speak in absolutes :)

Life is about weighing evidence against assumptions and determining likelihoods. Anyone that asserts things with certainty is trying to scam you!

ITT: people who didn't read the NIH letter

energeticlotuseater wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

Sure, political theater and show trials never get old… much more important than focusing on the actual issues!

It’s a waste of time and money but, sure, to humor the weirdos I’ll allow the Wheels if Justice to turn.

Spoiler alert: nothing is gonna happen to Fauci - despite his best attempts otherwise haha.

“Political Theatre” “show trials” “focus on the actual issues”

Congress is currently trying put Steve Bannon on trial and would out Trump on trial if they could.

I do agree though with one thing, this whole COVID thing has turned into one big political theatre. It’s purely political at this point.

Congress shouldn’t be doing that either. Biden should preemptively pardon everyone involved in Trump/COVID/election/whatever BS and move on.

But I see how “if your side got to, then my side gets to” is how politics works these days.

Pardon my idealistic musings.

Harambe wrote:

ITT: people who didn't read the NIH letter

You don’t get it:

Man on internet said “Fauci Bad” though so I no need read.

2600 bro wrote:

same ol, but different wrote:

You sure do use the word "probably" a lot.

Yes only boring dogmatics speak in absolutes :)

Life is about weighing evidence against assumptions and determining likelihoods. Anyone that asserts things with certainty is trying to scam you!

You mean like you, and your fearmongering and vaxxplaining?

Gotcha!

same ol, but different wrote:

not even close wrote:

A bad look?????

He lied to Congress...twice.

It's the same repeating pattern of rationalized BS from the same repeating people. Deny, and when caught, rationalize it.

It’s quite comical though.

figgo wrote:

Lied under oath to Congress.

AGAIN.

It is surely ironic that Republicans are up in arms about "lying" as they are undoubtedly world champions at the practice - beginning with Trump's "Big Lie". Since Fauci is an intelligent man - unlike any Republican - he is unlikely to have lied about something where he would know he would be found out (as Republicans do) but was probably not advised of the research continuing.

Dr Mengele is never going to leave.

He won’t resign because it’s too profitable financially and egotistically.

He won’t be fired by the current administration because of optics.

2600 bro wrote:

Feel like this is targeted at Collins? Not Fauci?

Gain of function research was never forbidden or even discouraged. It’s probably stupid given the lax safety standards of many academic labs though.

…but lying about it to Congress (and all of America) certainly is.

Armstronglivs wrote:

It is surely ironic that Republicans are up in arms about "lying" as they are undoubtedly world champions at the practice - beginning with Trump's "Big Lie". Since Fauci is an intelligent man - unlike any Republican - he is unlikely to have lied about something where he would know he would be found out (as Republicans do) but was probably not advised of the research continuing.

Oh, you mean like the astronomical treasonous lie that was 'Russia collusion'?

"Gain of function"

I see the jabbering yahoos have learned a new scary phrase from their crazy uncle's FB page. What a joke.

same ol, but different wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

It is surely ironic that Republicans are up in arms about "lying" as they are undoubtedly world champions at the practice - beginning with Trump's "Big Lie". Since Fauci is an intelligent man - unlike any Republican - he is unlikely to have lied about something where he would know he would be found out (as Republicans do) but was probably not advised of the research continuing.

Oh, you mean like the astronomical treasonous lie that was 'Russia collusion'?

https://www.usnews.com/dims4/USNEWS/bd2878f/2147483647/resize/1200x%3E/quality/85/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.beam.usnews.com%2F65%2F6e%2F620054fb48a896921943384e12cf%2Fthumb-1.jpg

Russia's involvement in the 2016 election was a fact. So was Trump's obstruction of the investigation. But Trump's biggest lie is that he "won" the 2020 election - which the Jan 6 morons bought into, along with the entire Republican Party, bar Liz Cheney. It is the Party of Lies.

taku bag wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

Feel like this is targeted at Collins? Not Fauci?

Gain of function research was never forbidden or even discouraged. It’s probably stupid given the lax safety standards of many academic labs though.

…but lying about it to Congress (and all of America) certainly is.

But lying is the norm for Republicans and Trump still leads the way. So why are you so upset?

heez louise wrote:

I know the current climate is so political that many on the left will defend Faucci to the death. But Faucci has repeatedly bent the truth and straight out lied during this entire pandemic.

He’s a greasy politician at best.

It's incredible.

They are desperate to make this Trump's fault.

Surprised they are not blaming Russia. Or are they?