I know.... times don't matter in XC and blah blah. But I think Ritz has the official HS XC 5k record at something like 14:07 or around there if memory serves me well. Please correct me at will. Still, Leo being a Junior now, I begin to wonder... could he drop a sub 14 5k in XC like on a course at Runninglane for instance? We recently saw the first girls sub 16. Is sub 14 for boys that far off in the future?
I don't think it's that far off. 4:30/mile is tough though, but honestly do-able
No.
why not may I ask?
No such thing as a certified XC course
U Really Think So? wrote:
No such thing as a certified XC course
I think everyone knows what I mean here. Granted, I used to think we would never see a sub 14 in XC unless you had a once in a generation talent like Ritz; yet, the Newbury Park boys' new standard of excellence has me thinking we could see it in the next few years. I wouldn't be surprised.
Well they have the Clovis Invitational coming up, 5k course. Course record is 14:24 by German Fernandez. Nico couldn't get this record, I don't think anyone will get it this year either.
jonesy22 wrote:
Well they have the Clovis Invitational coming up, 5k course. Course record is 14:24 by German Fernandez. Nico couldn't get this record, I don't think anyone will get it this year either.
I don't know. I think Nico ran like 14:28.9. With Leo's performance the other week. I don't think breaking that record is out of reach at all for him.
Few college guys can break 14 in XC. These guys are 8:40 two milers which puts them behind 100 college guys.
Marty the thong wrote:
Few college guys can break 14 in XC. These guys are 8:40 two milers which puts them behind 100 college guys.
I don't know about that. They are running about the same times as Nico did in HS, and there were only 3 college guys who could beat Nico in CC.
I don’t think so. Woodbridge is an extremely fast course and he was running 14:08 pace. I’d say he could run around 13:45on the track right now, but I don’t think there’s a course that’s even faster than the Woodbridge one
Times also shouldn’t matter in XC but that’s another discussion aha
Marty the thong wrote:
Few college guys can break 14 in XC. These guys are 8:40 two milers which puts them behind 100 college guys.
Never thought about this. Really think there are 100 x 8.05 3k guys in the ncaa?
I ran 7:58/3:59, but never broke 14.00. Sub 14 would be a tough ask for a hs’er on grass.
dont think so wrote:
I don’t think so. Woodbridge is an extremely fast course and he was running 14:08 pace. I’d say he could run around 13:45on the track right now, but I don’t think there’s a course that’s even faster than the Woodbridge one
Times also shouldn’t matter in XC but that’s another discussion aha
And short
Nico is 30 seconds faster than he was in HS.
Yes. 75th indoor was 8:07 and the Ivy was out and other teams did XC and guys don't all run 3k as opposed to 5k or mile. Easily 100 guys in college would run faster than 8:40 for 2 miles.
Yes at Woodward Park with reckless abandon! Good luck!
No offense, but Cali XC is faux XC.
Marty the thong wrote:
Yes. 75th indoor was 8:07 and the Ivy was out and other teams did XC and guys don't all run 3k as opposed to 5k or mile. Easily 100 guys in college would run faster than 8:40 for 2 miles.
Interesting take. Thanks for bringing it up.
TheSummerSoldier wrote:
I know.... times don't matter in XC and blah blah. But I think Ritz has the official HS XC 5k record at something like 14:07 or around there if memory serves me well. Please correct me at will. Still, Leo being a Junior now, I begin to wonder... could he drop a sub 14 5k in XC like on a course at Runninglane for instance? We recently saw the first girls sub 16. Is sub 14 for boys that far off in the future?
Maybe on a 2.92 mile course like Woodbridge.
Woodbridge was measured with a wheel by multiple coaches after it was measured by the meet director.
It's 3 miles