Katelyn Tuohy wins Adidas XC Challenge

As an Insider, I'm tempted to ask you if there is a Conococheague pipeline developing?

Dwightarm wrote:

NC went 1-6; I’m assuming not a very competitive race?

You know zero about "real racing". Your hobby jogging doesn't count. Stay on the sidelines as trying to sound smart doesn't work for you.

Actually, NC State has a world class Engineering school and Animal Science program. Just because its a state school, does not make it inferior.

No. You are right. When they go 1-6, that means the race is more competitive than a race when they go 2-5-8-12-18-25. I guess we don't understand racing.

Mc Laugh wrote:

Every national class runner wants to be one winning team and assumes they will make top 7.

There are other winning teams besides NC state, not sure why so many girls have flooded that school knowing a few seconds slow and you arent running the big meets...go to byu, go to Arkansas, they are easy to get into if you cant get into Virginia, Stanford, etc

bartholomew_maxwell wrote:

Uhh she only winned by 2 seconds. Not particularly impressive.

jonesy22 wrote:

Wow, katelyn may have a big year.

Beating Kelsey Chmiel is no easy task. She's wildly consistent, ran a 32:45 10k and placed ninth at the NCAA XC championships. Same with Hannah Steelman, a 15:30 5k runner who got fifth at NCAA XC. Not sure why you see beating two top ten NCAA caliber athletes as not particularly impressive.

runnerexpert wrote:

Mc Laugh wrote:

Every national class runner wants to be one winning team and assumes they will make top 7.

There are other winning teams besides NC state, not sure why so many girls have flooded that school knowing a few seconds slow and you arent running the big meets...go to byu, go to Arkansas, they are easy to get into if you cant get into Virginia, Stanford, etc

I hear what you are saying about possibly not being able to run the big meets. I'm not sure why you think you know better than the runners who all visited a number of schools and each decided NC State was right for them. BYU, NC, UVA, Arkansas, Furman (and others) are all landing top ranked runners too. People decide where they feel most comfortable and hopefully factor in other things besides just running. But it is their decision.

It does seem that way but I have a feeling that BYU will win which means it would be even harder to make their team.

In terms of ease of admission,

Average ACT at Arkansas is 24.

Average ACT at BYU is 29.

Average ACT at NC State is 30.

Average ACT Virginia is 31.

So the only one out of the range is Arkansas.

What impressed me the most is usually when Katelyn gets caught late in a race, she is already gassed (think nationals where she just outlasted Ewert and Thorvaldson). At this race Kelsey pulled up even along side her at around 5k, and Katelyn responded strongly and gained ground on her again on the final straight. That kind of composure against top competition is a good sign.

FastTuohy wrote:

runnerexpert wrote:

There are other winning teams besides NC state, not sure why so many girls have flooded that school knowing a few seconds slow and you arent running the big meets...go to byu, go to Arkansas, they are easy to get into if you cant get into Virginia, Stanford, etc

I hear what you are saying about possibly not being able to run the big meets. I'm not sure why you think you know better than the runners who all visited a number of schools and each decided NC State was right for them. BYU, NC, UVA, Arkansas, Furman (and others) are all landing top ranked runners too. People decide where they feel most comfortable and hopefully factor in other things besides just running. But it is their decision.

Absolutely, been through the recruiting process with my daughter, you should go where you feel most comfortable but I am surprised so many top runners feel that comfort at the place where they are in real danger of seeing the lots of time on the bench, touhy was not one fo those runners, she was clearly too good but there are plenty of others that would be running with the top 7 elsewhere. I gues if you are interested in engineering and animal sciences it makes sense.

I have no doubt that she is a perennial top 5 finisher even if she does not improve. It wouldn't surprise me if she won a title in there either.

I think NC State has gone all in on distance and also provides discounts for academics. So if you go for free to NC State as opposed to paying $15k per year at Arkansas or $20k at Virginia or NC or Michigan or Wisconsin, it makes sense.

go bigger wrote:

It does seem that way but I have a feeling that BYU will win which means it would be even harder to make their team.

In terms of ease of admission,

Average ACT at Arkansas is 24.

Average ACT at BYU is 29.

Average ACT at NC State is 30.

Average ACT Virginia is 31.

So the only one out of the range is Arkansas.

It doesn't take a 29,30, 31 ACT to get into those schools as a recruited athlete...Duke Girls XC when Rhonda was there was looking for a 28, she handed everyone a piece of paper at junior day that said it, I read it myself Ivy league looking for even higher to get a likely letter.

NC State Insider wrote:

I think NC State has gone all in on distance and also provides discounts for academics. So if you go for free to NC State as opposed to paying $15k per year at Arkansas or $20k at Virginia or NC or Michigan or Wisconsin, it makes sense.

Yep

You have to able to check some boxes at any program:

1. Get Admitted

2. Fast Enough

3. Be able to pay for it

Most athletes are stopped cold for the Ivies because of points 1 and 3. Remember, no scholarships in the ivies, fin aid yes but no scholarships.

go bigger wrote:

It does seem that way but I have a feeling that BYU will win which means it would be even harder to make their team.

In terms of ease of admission,

Average ACT at Arkansas is 24.

Average ACT at BYU is 29.

Average ACT at NC State is 30.

Average ACT Virginia is 31.

So the only one out of the range is Arkansas.

This is meaningless info. Admission requirements are completely different for blue chip recruits,

5 sections wrote:

KT ran 7 seconds faster on the course as a Sr in HS when she won the Great American XC meet.

Maybe was a tempo race?

a lot of times people pick schools based on location, and how well they relate to the culture of the school and team, as well as areas of academic interest

People from the East Coast might not want to go to West Coast Schools for location, and they might not want to go to Southern schools for location and also the south is really different vibe than the East Coast and some people don't relate as well to Southern Culture

Outside of the last 2 years and n c state wasn't really getting necessarily the very top Runners so it's just the last recruiting class that was really or a lot of girls went there and they didn't know ahead of time that necessarily other girls were going to sign after them

haha good that you point out nc state's world class engineering and animal science programs because guess what !! katelyn picked nc state for that reason too (she said in an interview), as few of you know, katelyn was a valedictorian in highschool and now katelyn tuohy is an engineering student and kelsey chmiel is an animal science student, both are always receiving all-academics honor

semihaze wrote:

haha good that you point out nc state's world class engineering and animal science programs because guess what !! katelyn picked nc state for that reason too (she said in an interview), as few of you know, katelyn was a valedictorian in highschool and now katelyn tuohy is an engineering student and kelsey chmiel is an animal science student, both are always receiving all-academics honor

Wow Katelyn Tuohy was the valedictorian! Someone should inform the principal and Michael adjedge, because the principal announced him as the valedictorian at the graduation ceremony and he gave the speech

Tuohy is so humble she wins valedictorian and doesn't even tell anyone

She was a top student but didn't win salutatorian or valedictorian

The principal introduces Michael adjudge as valedictorian at 3039 minutes into the broadcast