joecrunner wrote:
Not on their best day without specifically training for it. What makes you think 2 hour runners can suddenly excel at 24?
The likelihood that this guy couldn’t run one mile at their marathon pace.
joecrunner wrote:
Not on their best day without specifically training for it. What makes you think 2 hour runners can suddenly excel at 24?
The likelihood that this guy couldn’t run one mile at their marathon pace.
What is Camille (jaguar) running in then? She was famous for espousing minimalism only to give it up in favor of the high stack carbon shoes, did she switch back to flats?
comedyre1:3f wrote:
Just goes to show how much of a joke ultra records are. Good for him, though, for turning his addictive tendencies into something positive.
You think running 7:29 pace all day long. 7+ sub 3:30 marathons continuously is a joke?
Exactly RoJo! This is incredibly impressive and not a “joke”. It’s a different type of talent to be able to run that pace for that long.
OozmaKappa wrote:
This kind of just speaks to how unimpressive the rcord is.
The 10th best marathoner today could probably break that record on their off day while smoking and drinking, AND stopping occasionally to check in on their farms.
I personally dont get the hype for records in these niche running events for this reason. I find track and traditional road racing a lot more exciting.
Thank you for speaking the truth. Don’t coddle these distance twigs.
rojo wrote:
comedyre1:3f wrote:
Just goes to show how much of a joke ultra records are. Good for him, though, for turning his addictive tendencies into something positive.
You think running 7:29 pace all day long. 7+ sub 3:30 marathons continuously is a joke?
Compared to what any elite marathoner could do if properly incentivized, yes, a big ol’ joke.
I think you'd be surprised how few elite marathoners could run 7 marathons in a row. Could some? Sure. But this is a different talent and skillset, and as of this point he has the world record. Why hate on the performance based on a hypothetical?
Hoka Rincons on the road. Don't recall on the trail, but Hoka.
n9 wrote:
To put this to the extreme, imagine 'backyard chess ultra': two players play chess and have to run a lap of the track after each turn. Running is untimed (save for some very generous threshold to determine if a player couldn't finish his lap) and the winner is determined solely on the chess board. Now, we have two players: an elite marathoner who barely has any chess experience, just knows the rules, and a word class chess player who jogs 45 minutes 6 days a week to keep himself fit. Who'd you'd bet on?
😭Ok im not gonna say this is racially motivated but i think its hilarious that youre basically saying the 24Hr runners are playing 5D chess while the marathoners are playing checkers and the marathoners are too oonga bunga to figure out how to run for 24hrs. 🤣🤣
You can't beat genetics.
The kid running the 5:14 mile in fourth grade should have told you that, but you didn't listen. Go ahead with your cosplay, boys, but until you can pick your parents and the address in Eldoret where they live, you're destined to stroll the abandoned mall in dad shoes before you know it.
Finally people are starting to realize. Tobacco improves performance. Caffeine is all the rage but nicotine still has a stigma. Runners should start smoking.
asdasdasd wrote:
joecrunner wrote:
Not on their best day without specifically training for it. What makes you think 2 hour runners can suddenly excel at 24?
It is the same difference as saying a great 400m runner should also be a great 5000m runner. Extrapolating might work x2, ie marathoners could excel at the 50k or 100k, but going x12 is a bit fishy.
no it is more like saying a good 2 miler could excell at the marathon(12x). Similiar energy systems just stressed differently. Not how good kipchoge, geb, bekele, Tergat were over 3k. Not all 3k runners will be great marathoners but it is a pretty good indication. not many 730 3k guys are losing to 9min guys in a marathon....
comedyre1:3f wrote:
joecrunner wrote:
Not on their best day without specifically training for it. What makes you think 2 hour runners can suddenly excel at 24?
The likelihood that this guy couldn’t run one mile at their marathon pace.
What does that have to do with running 24 hours? You are proving my point.
rojo wrote:
comedyre1:3f wrote:
Just goes to show how much of a joke ultra records are. Good for him, though, for turning his addictive tendencies into something positive.
You think running 7:29 pace all day long. 7+ sub 3:30 marathons continuously is a joke?
Well under 3.30 pace right Rojo? It's closer to to 3.15 mara pace
fkkfkfkfkf wrote:
asdasdasd wrote:
It is the same difference as saying a great 400m runner should also be a great 5000m runner. Extrapolating might work x2, ie marathoners could excel at the 50k or 100k, but going x12 is a bit fishy.
no it is more like saying a good 2 miler could excell at the marathon(12x). Similiar energy systems just stressed differently. Not how good kipchoge, geb, bekele, Tergat were over 3k. Not all 3k runners will be great marathoners but it is a pretty good indication. not many 730 3k guys are losing to 9min guys in a marathon....
Agreed, but my point is, not without specific training. Give Kipchoge a year at training for the 24 hour record, and he gets 200 plus miles. But he can't just put on his shoes on a whim and even expect to last more than say 100km without specific prep. It's not the pace that is the issue, it is the duration at the pace.
joecrunner wrote:
comedyre1:3f wrote:
The likelihood that this guy couldn’t run one mile at their marathon pace.
What does that have to do with running 24 hours? You are proving my point.
There was a kid who set a Guinness record the other day for swinging for 36 hours straight. I was not impressed by that because many people could accomplish that if they tried, it is just that not enough people care to try it. That is the same way I view ultra records. Someone running a 7:30 mile pace over any distance is just not that interesting. Your average runner couldn't run a single mile at the pace top marathon runners go for 26.2 (4:45). Heck, your average D1 runner couldn't run that pace for a 5K. That is impressive. That is elite. Someone running slower pace than a fat guy runs a 5k over a long distance is nothing special.
Charlatan wrote:
He broke the 12hr and 100 mile records in non-AlphaFlys. So, shoes were all about comfort for him in 24hr.
Records are impressive when they are difficult to break. Comfort reduces difficulty.
24 hour runner wrote:
spinozza wrote:
A Kenyan or some other east African would have the top 10 times in this within a year if they wanted it.
No they wouldn't.
A couple of years ago some African runners tried to run 100 miles on track. They failed miserably.
24 hours is a long time and much more can happen in that time then in a marathon which last just a good 2 hours for the best these days.
Were they 202-203 marathoners in the prime of their careers?
I agree that this record is less impressive than records for the marathon or under, but if it's really that easy to beat then why don't you beat it yourself? Oh wait, 99% of people on Letsrun are overweigh slobs who falsely claim that they used to run a sub-14 5K when in reality they couldn't run to the end of their street...
Your chess example belongs in the hall of fame.
Are you Billy Madison?