Because this video is buried on page 9 of the other thread, here is it, view it with your own eyes. Jewett should be through. Amos needs to give him enough space from behind to have a back kick.
Because this video is buried on page 9 of the other thread, here is it, view it with your own eyes. Jewett should be through. Amos needs to give him enough space from behind to have a back kick.
thanks, and i was wondering why more people weren't talking about this.
I think ideally both should be re-instated, but if it had to be only one, it should have been Jewett.
Absolutely. I don't know what the officials are thinking. Don't they realize everyone can watch the footage and see what BS this is?
I don’t think the issue was that Amos tripped him. I think the issue was that he cut in without the necessary lead
seattle prattle wrote:
thanks, and i was wondering why more people weren't talking about this.
I think ideally both should be re-instated, but if it had to be only one, it should have been Jewett.
there is no situation in which Amos should have been reinstated. Not only that, but his time of 2:38 should be replaced with a big DQ for interference.
At 16 sec, it is quite clear that Jewett's right foot hits the back of left foot. Not clear that it even touches Amos before that, but there is definitely a squeeze from Rotich
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makes no sense to me…but that applies to 95% of judgement calls from track officials
ceccione wrote:
Yes. He cut in on Amos. Amos didn't move or alter his position. Then Isiah kicked Amos. So who is at fault?
Do the rules state Amos must alter his position and defer to someone who just cut in on him? If that were the case, we would see EVRY SINGLE RACE showing multiple people slamming on the breaks as they are cut in on, to avoid a falling/dq. But we never see that because it's not a thing.
In long distance triathlon, pros have to drop back when they are overtaken by someone passing them, and defer to the rider who just passed them, to avoid "drafting" penalty.
What is the cut in zone for track running to avoid contact? What should it be? No closer than 1 meter in front, so everyone is spaced by a meter? If they get closer than a meter they are dq'd??
Do you see where this is going?
OK that makes sense. I didn’t see the cut
ceccione wrote:
Yes. He cut in on Amos. Amos didn't move or alter his position. Then Isiah kicked Amos. So who is at fault?
Do the rules state Amos must alter his position and defer to someone who just cut in on him? If that were the case, we would see EVRY SINGLE RACE showing multiple people slamming on the breaks as they are cut in on, to avoid a falling/dq. But we never see that because it's not a thing.
In long distance triathlon, pros have to drop back when they are overtaken by someone passing them, and defer to the rider who just passed them, to avoid "drafting" penalty.
What is the cut in zone for track running to avoid contact? What should it be? No closer than 1 meter in front, so everyone is spaced by a meter? If they get closer than a meter they are dq'd??
Do you see where this is going?
Bro what cut in? That video shows four full strides where Jewett is clear of Amos, there is contact at the very end of the 4th stride. It's cut and dry, could not be more clear.
Here is a vid of the whole thing unfolding, sets up at about 1:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZGO9jArbd4
Seems Jewett on outside of lane one had just cut into the inside of lane 1, and the two get tangled up.
So what? Rubbin' is racin'.
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ceccione wrote:
Yes. He cut in on Amos. Amos didn't move or alter his position. Then Isiah kicked Amos. So who is at fault?
Do the rules state Amos must alter his position and defer to someone who just cut in on him? If that were the case, we would see EVRY SINGLE RACE showing multiple people slamming on the breaks as they are cut in on, to avoid a falling/dq. But we never see that because it's not a thing.
In long distance triathlon, pros have to drop back when they are overtaken by someone passing them, and defer to the rider who just passed them, to avoid "drafting" penalty.
What is the cut in zone for track running to avoid contact? What should it be? No closer than 1 meter in front, so everyone is spaced by a meter? If they get closer than a meter they are dq'd??
Do you see where this is going?
Good observation. This video does show the initial contact really well, but the others, including the one on p. 9 from the OG thread with the stadium announcer gives the best look at the cut. Jewett got clipped on his second stride in after cutting off Amos. Honest mistake, and this is a tough call by the committee, but this is why Amos is being allowed in.
Amos is much more of a favorite to win a medal than Jewitt. That is the decisive factor in the decision.
I posted about This exact thing twice before there was ever a reinstatement and put a few videos on my insta. Of course I’m not famous so no one cares. But I feel I was on this immediately. I’m not looking for an internet handjob, but I really thought posting the videos and tagging everyone involved would get more traction. It’s like it’s being deliberately shelved.
Men 800m, every track & field season, more and more men are racing 800m sub-1:44 but no new sub-1:41 men. The last 400m of 800m races have a lot of congestion. I would like to see 800m raced with a four turn stagger. The best and fastest 800m runners will advance through the rounds and the best and fastest 800m men will earn medals. In U.S. we modernized and adapted with 440 yard dash. Four-hundred-forty yard dash in U.S. colleges and high schools was raced with all 440 yard participants starting on a straight line, no tear drop and no stagger. Athletes broke for lane one immediately. By 1970's, 440 yard dash was raced with one turn stagger. Circa 1980, all U.S. high schools and colleges switched to 400m raced with two turn stagger. In a few years, we well have over 200 all-time sub-1:44 800m men. Isaiah Jewett is not a young men by 800m standards. I want the best and most fit 800m runners to do well.
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here here video proof wrote:
Because this video is buried on page 9 of the other thread, here is it, view it with your own eyes. Jewett should be through. Amos needs to give him enough space from behind to have a back kick.
https://twitter.com/SethTVSports/status/1421937672038322184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1421937672038322184%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10
Clear as day, but the US runner had just cut in front of Amos. It's too much to expect Amos to be the blame for the contact. You could say Jewett didn't leave room for his own back kick, or conversely for Amos' left leg to continue into knee lift. Either Amos stays, or the both stay. It was just a matter of strides until something hit.
Jewitt should have stayed on the outside for the sprint home anyway. Jewett is super likeable but I don't have a problem if the ruling stands.
But what about athlete #1225? I don't know who it is but Jewett's trip step hit #1225.
Jewett tripped and it tripped Amos.
Why is nobody talking about the near clips of the heels of #1225
Before the clip that tripped Jewett who would then be rightly not able to move on.
A slow motion video on YouTube shows this