My experience in relationships is that women want someone to listen rather than bury them with advice. It might be better to back off and let her figure it out.
My experience in relationships is that women want someone to listen rather than bury them with advice. It might be better to back off and let her figure it out.
jecht wrote:
She is getting past the first round in most cases at the big schools (screener rounds).
Then no callbacks.
She DID get a job offer for 43k at a charter school on the west side of Columbus. But declined it because it was disorganized and very ghetto. But that's only 1k more than her current role. At least at her Catholic school she'll go from 42k to 50k with her MA (step-schedules help). But she doesn't want to be pigeonholed at Catholic schools with no resources. Still better than profit-based Charters.
I don't know how she interviews with the HR, but I practice with her beforehand and she does well. Good eye contact, no fidgeting, clear answers.
Could be this...
No matter what?
She had an offer. Did it ever occur to either of you that maybe she should have accepted it?
We have a shortage of elementary teachers in AZ. It is not hard to get a job as a teacher here. I would widen the geographic search. I lived in Northern Ohio for years and there never seemed to be an oversupply of teachers. Columbus is a lot more likely to be "overeducated" than NE Ohio...which is a different animal of course.
Fat Boy wrote:
I was in a similar position. I answered 'the call' for the incredible teacher shortage in the United States. I got certified, math and sciences, and got my masters in education. Surprise! No jobs!l.
Weird. My district (one of the top 50 largest in the nation) has over a hundred openings at the moment (and typically does for the first 6 weeks of the school year).
I also get emails from other districts about available openings pretty much year round.
My district recently launched an initiative to pay for parapros with bachelor's degrees to get their MATs just to help fill the shortage.
Yeah. She probably gave off an air of superiority and gave the impression that she was above working in a school that was "very ghetto" . No one wants to hire or work with someone like that
anti snobbery wrote:
Yeah. She probably gave off an air of superiority and gave the impression that she was above working in a school that was "very ghetto" . No one wants to hire or work with someone like that
Plus it sounds like she already has a job in a civilized Catholic school, which is 10x better situation that teaching the fatherless how to not stab each other in class.
So she's about to get a big pay bump to $50k, and build up her experience, at a civilized school with actual discipline and behavioral standards.
Sounds like she should pipe down and turn that frown upside down. Oh boo hoo, she only makes $50k for 9 months work, and might have to tutor some kids next summer!
OP needs to man up too.
Ohio has more teachers than jobs. Is she applying in other states? The majority of my friends left the state for their first jobs. North Carolina and Florida was most of their destinations. Over time the ones that wanted to return have. She may need to move for the job.
hsywfflg9rgsu wrote:
Ohio has more teachers than jobs. Is she applying in other states? The majority of my friends left the state for their first jobs. North Carolina and Florida was most of their destinations. Over time the ones that wanted to return have. She may need to move for the job.
She already has a job, and it's a good one. She just feels entitled to more than $50k a year despite her inexperience. Getting that Masters degree went straight to her head, and her self esteem now depends on a salary number.
Ugh, I feel for you fiancee as location is everything. My wife is making $88,400 with a Masters equivalency (w/ 15+ years) here in the Mid-Atlantic after making $45-50k in the south and then $60k in Maryland. Just find the right school district.
So she got useless degree from diploma mills, and you won't why she can't land a job?
I'm guessing teaching is her "passion?' Sounds like a pill.
steeple people wrote:
So she got useless degree from diploma mills, and you won't why she can't land a job?
I'm guessing teaching is her "passion?' Sounds like a pill.
I bet she guilt trips OP when he goes running, and she just sits there bored with a blank stare when he's not around to entertain her.
Childhood ed degree from a degree mill, we can even guesstimate her SAT score.
Ask Noah Droddy?
Why do teachers always want more $$$!?
For 4 months of vacation every year?
These California teachers never shut up about how hard they have it. Six figures to use the same lesson plan every year that is given to them? Real hard.
These California teachers look very well fed. They could play for the Raiders O Line.
She sounds entitled, fat, annoying, etc..
It's most likely just your location. My brother's friend (a guy) got a public school elementary job his first year out of his master's. But he was close to not having a job. His professor helped him. My friend's girlfriend was a paraeducator and doing an online cert and now she's a teacher after finishing the cert. I'm going to try going for the master's, like my brother's friend.
Is the state where I teach, Utah, and Idaho most recently, it's relatively easy to get hired, especially in sped resource/ self contained. Some states don't have the shortage we have. Starting pay in most districts is $50k.
Maybe she just sucks.
Landing a teaching job is tough. In a lot of fields, you have to be related to someone or have a connection. Having experience or a masters will just make it tougher because the public schools will have to pay your fiance more. Schools usually want someone straight out of undergrad. The exception is experienced teachers in AP and Dual enrollment subjects with a track record of 4's and 5's on the APs.
When they said she wasn't experienced enough initially - what they meant was she doesn't have the connections and nepotism the people who are going to get these jobs have.
I substitute taught in another state for a few years, got a MA, got licensed in a second subject, only to find that everything I was doing was just shooting myself in the foot. I never got a teaching job despite success in long term sub positions, working as a tutor for standardized test prep, the masters, etc. and moved on to a different field. There are just a glut of teachers and its an incredibly difficult field to break into. For anyone else, I'd say if you don't have a teaching job lined up before finishing undergrad strongly consider a different career - substitute teaching for no money is just shooting yourself in the foot.
States' credentialing requirements vary, and not all states have reciprocity in requirements. I may be behind times, but credentialing used to be the big bugaboo for landing teaching jobs. Not knowledgeable about the RESA and "Reading Endorsement" qualification you refer to, but in my day in California, you had to have at least one of a variety of clear credentials to be considered for a position. The whole credentialing edifice directed and controlled teaching jobs, and was the monolithic barrier you had to *pay for* every impractical and mind-numbing course for years they put in front of you. Degrees were party favors, credentials were gold.
healterseltzer wrote:
hsywfflg9rgsu wrote:
Ohio has more teachers than jobs. Is she applying in other states? The majority of my friends left the state for their first jobs. North Carolina and Florida was most of their destinations. Over time the ones that wanted to return have. She may need to move for the job.
She already has a job, and it's a good one. She just feels entitled to more than $50k a year despite her inexperience. Getting that Masters degree went straight to her head, and her self esteem now depends on a salary number.
If she want s a better job she may need to move. It isn't uncommon to need to relocate to make a career jump. A friend 9f mine is a CIO at a 20b+ financial services company. He had a decent job but needed to relocate to eventually get where he wanted to be. Went from Ohio to Rome to Miami to Toronto and back to Ohio for a 8 figure payday.
Just don't stay where you are, or she is, and settle for little 5% and 10% scraps, relocate to make it happen.