What Fauci's "headed in wrong direction" looks like counting U.S. deaths, not cases

Does anyone actually still listen to Fauci?

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

55YO wrote:

Here's one article bucking that trend:

https://nypost.com/2021/07/26/covid-has-become-a-media-driven-panic-disconnected-from-facts/

The author makes sense. Liberals will hate the guy

I'm a Democrat and fairly liberal but I think this article is 100% correct. Cases are not a worry in and of itself. Zero COVID is not a realistic scenario. I am OK with the CDC making recommendations as it stands right now and I'm OK with corporations creating rules around vaccinations that make it very advisable. I do NOT have any appetite for unnecessary lockdowns or restrictions. Mask mandates in areas where hospitalizations are not a real problem don't make sense to me. At some point the unvaxxed population will have to live with their choices and everyone else doesn't have to bend over backwards in what will probably be futile aways to keep them from getting sick. I understand there is the concern about breakthrough cases and spread through that. I would just advise everyone who is vaxxed and worried about it to be vigilant and if you are around someone who is immuno-compromised or old just act like you aren't vaxxed. We don't need a gazillion rules for people to return to being cautious in applicable situations.[/quote]

This is about right. I agree.

Creepy old man wrote:

Mask mandates coming back because 100 million people won't get vaccinated. We're all going to suffer because they suck. If vaccination rates from April/May had continued to present, we'd be north of 80% and all moving on with our lives. Instead we get to go backwards because of these idiots. Even Canada, who botched their rollout, is ahead of us now. We had a huge lead and this race and surrendered it.

The current vaccines are not very effective against the Delta variation. Also, the effectiveness of the vaccines appear to be following off after 7 months post vaccination. We may be screwed. Masks aren't stopping it

Help me out here. why have a mask mandates if the vaccines work so well, especially for the vaccinated? as far as the unvaccinated their body their choice as the vaccinated will be protected.

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The explanation is that even with full vaccination it was never said that this will forever and ever fully prevent this virus from entering your physical body. Hence if the virus is circulating and you contract it, your status as vaccinated may mean you get subclinical disease but could still spread it to others.

Remember as well the masks are not for protection of yourself but for others to whom you may spread the virus.

As Precious Roy said, the longer the virus circulates, the greater the risk for eventual development of a vaccine resistant strain and of course also means herd immunity will not develop as we had long hoped for.

i hate that this is everyone's excuse to not listen to fact/authority.. they estimated a 2 week timetable to flatten the curve ifff everyone complied: i.e. everyone wore masks, only went out for necessities, didn't gather in groups.

yes, almost impossible to get everyone to comply, but i'm confident everyone poking fun at the "2 weeks to flatten the curve" of now a 1.5 year pandemic, did absolutely nothing to abide by these rules.

Also, important to note that scientists in the US were a little behind as COVID was so unknown in those early stages.

And for those that love their freedom and are adamant that our little government doesn't have power to tell us to wear a mask, and can't tell me who i can or can't hang out with, or where i can go out, are a huggggggeeee reason we're still in this mess.

Appreciate OP for bringing in a valid stat that actually does ease the fear as even though cases are rising, the death rate isn't following, but I too will look out for the August death rate. This new surge has only been really spreading this past week so if it does end up deadly, I'd expect the deaths to occur in august, not july. time will tell if i'm wrong.

formerucla wrote:

i hate that this is everyone's excuse to not listen to fact/authority.. they estimated a 2 week timetable to flatten the curve ifff everyone complied: i.e. everyone wore masks, only went out for necessities, didn't gather in groups.

yes, almost impossible to get everyone to comply, but i'm confident everyone poking fun at the "2 weeks to flatten the curve" of now a 1.5 year pandemic, did absolutely nothing to abide by these rules.

My household did everything right. I was the only one who went anywhere, and we avoided COVID. Try again!

yes, good for you and congrats. but thinking you’re little family makes a difference isn’t what i’m saying. flattening the curve in 2 weeks didnt work because it wasn’t the whole population who did what your family did.

but again, you’re a moron a thought i mean if your household listened then the curve would flatten.

Yesbut wrote:

From CDC data through today, using their broadest category "All deaths involving Covid-19."

2021

January: 104,693

February: 47,185

March: 22,715

April: 18,374

May: 14,458

June: 7,404

July: 2,942

Clearly, "headed in wrong direction." At least for those who want to keep the fear level turned up to 11.

Cases blowing past 100k a day for days on end now, and hospitalizations surging in many states. But lets continue to mindlessly rage against Fauci says like a petulant child having a temper tantrum

Sham 69 2024 wrote:

Yesbut wrote:

From CDC data through today, using their broadest category "All deaths involving Covid-19."

2021

January: 104,693

February: 47,185

March: 22,715

April: 18,374

May: 14,458

June: 7,404

July: 2,942

Clearly, "headed in wrong direction." At least for those who want to keep the fear level turned up to 11.

Cases blowing past 100k a day for days on end now, and hospitalizations surging in many states. But lets continue to mindlessly rage against Fauci says like a petulant child having a temper tantrum

Who cares if case numbers rise if deaths stay low?

Let me rephrase that. Nobody with any common sense cares if case numbers rise while deaths fall

55YO wrote:

Yesbut wrote:

Here's one article bucking that trend:

https://nypost.com/2021/07/26/covid-has-become-a-media-driven-panic-disconnected-from-facts/

The author makes sense. Liberals will hate the guy

Fauci, Walinsky, CDC, WHO = ZERO credibility

The MRNa jab is not a vaccine, it's some kind of vaguely defined and unsafe gene therapy.

More people have died from adverse reactions to this jab than all other jabs combined.

Only fools believe ANYTHING from the current gov't/media narratives.