The vitriol that some of you showed to Cole Hocker was disgusting and lacking in any scientific basis.
It spurred me to write a column. There are HUNDREDS of Millions of elderly and vulnerable people across the globe that aren't vaccinated who need it much more.
I'm closing the old Hocker thread to comments.
The olympics has 1000s of people traveling from every continents, a potential super spreader event. That's why he is a dumb-ss, selfish, and an idiot. Not because he's young and not vaccinated, but because he's going to the olympics while not vaccinated.
Good one Robert.
100% of the 60% ( those suffering from chronic diseases, obesity, diabetes etc) of the US population should get vaccinated. The healthy 40% do not need to get vaccinated as their own health is 99.9% effective against any respiratory virus. Cole is healthy.
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rojo wrote:
The vitriol that some of you showed to Cole Hocker was disgusting and lacking in any scientific basis.
It spurred me to write a column.
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2021/07/im-pro-vaccine-but-if-we-follow-the-science-we-wouldnt-be-encouraging-olympic-track-stars-like-cole-hocker-to-be-vaccinated/I'm closing the old Hocker thread to comments.
WRONG, Rojo
Everyone else did their part and got the vaccine, why didn’t he?
Also, him getting the vaccine DOES protect the vulnerable, because he would be less likely to be infectious.
According to the CDC (they are scientists and you are not)
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html#:~:text=Currently%20authorized%20vaccines%20in%20the,%2D2%20to%20others.
“Currently authorized vaccines in the United States are highly effective at protecting vaccinated people against symptomatic and severe COVID-19. Additionally, a growing body of evidence suggests that fully vaccinated people are less likely to have asymptomatic infection or transmit SARS-CoV-2 to others.”
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Or, and use your small brain here to follow along, he could just quarantine himself in Japan for 2 weeks after he’s done running and then come home.
This has to be one of the stupidest takes ever written on this website, and I've been reading since the beginning.
Not just stupid, but extremely irresponsible.
Get those clicks , though.
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Exactly.
rojo wrote:
The vitriol that some of you showed to Cole Hocker was disgusting and lacking in any scientific basis.
It spurred me to write a column.
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2021/07/im-pro-vaccine-but-if-we-follow-the-science-we-wouldnt-be-encouraging-olympic-track-stars-like-cole-hocker-to-be-vaccinated/I'm closing the old Hocker thread to comments.
I think each person has the right to make their own decision regarding whether to be vaccinated. I don't know everything that went into his decision, so I won't comment on his particular situation.
However, your argument is childish if not simply ignorant. An individual's decision to get, or not get, the vaccine here in the U.S. where the vaccine is plentiful doesn't have any impact on whether an old person in a faraway land gets it. It's like not eating your peas with tonight's dinner so that people in Sudan don't starve.
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right wing nut wants to follow science now.
I don't think anyone is suggesting he get vaccinated now.
fatsos wrote:
The olympics has 1000s of people traveling from every continents, a potential super spreader event. That's why he is a dumb-ss, selfish, and an idiot. Not because he's young and not vaccinated, but because he's going to the olympics while not vaccinated.
1) How in the world is it a super spreader event?
Everyone is being tested nonstop. I need two tests within 72 hours of departure. In Japan, I will be tested 5 different times in the 10 days I'm there. And I may need another test to get back into the US. Plus I'm not allowed to go anywhere or do anything while there. I was told today I can't even go outside for a run.
If anything, all of this testing is going to let asymptomatic people know they have Covid and reduce the spread of the disease.
2) He recently had Covid and thus likely have immunity very similar to a vaccine.
3) We've had European soccer matches with tens of thousands of fans and we're worried about a sporting event with zero fans being a super spreader event?
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Rojo is so dumb on this one.
Not only forgetting that many olympians from around the world who will travel to Tokyo are not vaccinated simply because their countries do not have vaccine supplies, but that in the US, everyone who wants a vaccine has access to one.
Translation: Hocker is potentially endangering others out of his own selfishness and most likely misinformed opinion on vaccines. Shameful.
Rojo, your argument is moot and based on absolutely no science what so ever.
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Occam wrote:
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www....theleft wing nut wants to follow science now.
I don't think anyone is suggesting he get vaccinated now.
Fixed your obvious error. Tit for tat old man;)
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Quote Post wrote:
rojo wrote:
The vitriol that some of you showed to Cole Hocker was disgusting and lacking in any scientific basis.
It spurred me to write a column.
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2021/07/im-pro-vaccine-but-if-we-follow-the-science-we-wouldnt-be-encouraging-olympic-track-stars-like-cole-hocker-to-be-vaccinated/I'm closing the old Hocker thread to comments.
WRONG, Rojo
Everyone else did their part and got the vaccine, why didn’t he?
Also, him getting the vaccine DOES protect the vulnerable, because he would be less likely to be infectious.
According to the CDC (they are scientists and you are not)
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html#:~:text=Currently%20authorized%20vaccines%20in%20the,%2D2%20to%20others.
“Currently authorized vaccines in the United States are highly effective at protecting vaccinated people against symptomatic and severe COVID-19. Additionally, a growing body of evidence suggests that fully vaccinated people are less likely to have asymptomatic infection or transmit SARS-CoV-2 to others.”
End of thread
It seems the CDC may not be confident in their own science. Why would they tell people to keep wearing a mask after vaccination claiming you can still spread Covid while vaccinated? The CDC and Pfizer and Moderna have also stated that the vaccines only prevent you from falling ill and dying. They do not prevent you from getting Covid and transmitting to others. It seems like the jury is still out on this one.
The argument would hold water if the vaccine were in limited supply and we wanted to protect the elderly high risk people.
But it's not in limited supply in the US. The more people that get it, the harder it is for the virus to spread which helps prevent the mutations.
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Absolutely garbage article Rojo, I’m surprised you posted it.
I've deleted this post but am responding to it to help teach people what is and isn't deleted and why. Feel free to criticize my article but you can't just call something or someone garbage. As I tell my 3 year old, we don't call people names.
Fell free to say it's a bad article but please provide a reason. Throwing out insults like racist/garbage, idiot, etc with supporting arguments isn't productive.
My article is backed by science. It appears to me you just emotionally don't like it but you have no factual response to it so you respond emotionally like a two-year-old.
All of these holier than thou people like yourself that are feeling smug since they got the vaccine don't want to admit they are being selfish as hundreds of millions of poor senior citizens around the globe aren't vaccinated.