US middle schools boys mile record falls...... Guess the record time..

Found a nice article on the old record holder. He was legit.

"In track he excelled in the 3,000-meter steeplechase with an 8:50.11, 5,000 meters with a 14:20.22 and lowered his mile time to 4:03.21."

https://www.recordonline.com/sports/20170920/frank-giannino-all-time-great-headed-to-local-running-hall-of-fame

he hit puberty first wrote:

Is a middle school record meaningful? Isn't it just kind of a sign of who hit puberty first or who was held back a grade?

Cmon man its a record. Give the guy some props. Great race by him and hope his future is even brighter

Middle school records don't matter. This kid that broke the record today with the 4:23 is either almost 15 or 15 years old already.

My 13 year son, who is also an 8th grader like this kid, just ran 4:38.

I can tell you which one is going to be better in a couple years.

Letsrun has a strange obsession with predicting the future, especially the future failure of runners. It is more interesting to most of you to talk about how a great performance is not impressive when you spin it and look at it a certain way. A record is a record, and in this case no American middle schooler has ever run faster so yeah it’s pretty damn cool

Manbearpig15 wrote:

Middle school records don't matter. This kid that broke the record today with the 4:23 is either almost 15 or 15 years old already.

My 13 year son, who is also an 8th grader like this kid, just ran 4:38.

I can tell you which one is going to be better in a couple years.

No you can't, and if this were a wager, most of the money would be on the 423 kid.

I am betting on 4:23. It is just as likely that a 4:38 8th grader never breaks 4:23 while this kid is there already. Many top US athketes were old for their grades.

Manbearpig15 wrote:

Middle school records don't matter. This kid that broke the record today with the 4:23 is either almost 15 or 15 years old already.

My 13 year son, who is also an 8th grader like this kid, just ran 4:38.

I can tell you which one is going to be better in a couple years.

Your 13 almost 14 son? He’s 1 year older and 14 seconds faster. Your son won’t necessarily pass him.

Do you realize that your son would be lucky to beat the best middle school girl head to head?

It was a simple attempt for the manbearpig to take attention off the real star so he could talk about his son. I think they call it conversational narcissism these days.

Well that middle schooler just ran 4:09. Sister ran sub 16:00. Brother is at Georgetown and ran under 8:20 in high school.

you are dumb

It's a real good time for sophomore aged high schooler. Just wait until junior year when the younger kids in the grade have caught up.

But thanks for bringing up a year old thread.

I finished second to O'Connor at an age group championship race in NY in 1974, don't remember if it was AAU or NYRRC. It was held on a half mile horse racing track - 2 laps to the mile! Very strange race, but he was a badass. I ran something like 4:30 (age 15) and got crushed.

Over 10s faster than the second fastest freshman this year.

Here we go again. What’s the freshman record?

…also how is that 4:38 kid doing?

4:38 Dad will still claim that his son will end up faster.

And thanks for commenting on the old thread. At what HS are you still waiting for the entire team to pass this 4:09 kid? He is doing well, live with it. I dont think junior year everyone passes him and is running sub 4.

You don't know much about kids and growing, especially boys.

You can't predict. I was friends with an 8th grader who ran 4:3o's back in the day. He never broke 4:30. He was a man at 15, the rest of us were kids.

No. It is you who doesn't understand. Predicting that a 4:38 kid will surpass a 4:09 kid is a 1 in 1 million Longshot. Few states will have even 1 kid break 4:09.

Some youth athletes do well, others end up solid but not great. On the women's side more tend to turn out great (Raevyn Rogers, Jordan Hasay). That being said, David Krummenacker held a youth record for a number of years before it was broken.

I said this on a thread a couple days ago...

Go to the milesplit rankings and look at the freshmen from three years ago. Aiden Puffer was by far the best freshman in the country and no one had ever heard of Colin Sahlman. Now enlighten me, who has run 3:58 and 8:33? And did anyone see that coming three years ago?