Hocker needs a 3:40 race to guarantee selection

On principle, if he doesn’t run under 3:35, I say we leave him off the team.

There's a decent change if the race is slow if Hocker finishes top 3 he won't make the team. That is nuts. This guy has run relatively fast and beaten the best. The WA ranking system should reward that. Too much emphasis is put on time.

If he wins the Trials he should be in the Olympics with the season he had. (WA should let the US pick its 3 people in any event where they hvae more than 3 people qualified).

I'm pretty confident if he gets 3rd in like a 3:39 race he'll get to go. Has anyone figure out how slow it can go for him to get in?

e h wrote:

He can win in 3:42 or get second or third in 3:40 to guarantee a high enough ranking to get selected. There is a chance he can make it in with any time and a top 3, but that’s risky given the world rankings quota

That sounds about right? Can we see the math.

I'm confident if he runs 3:39 which is his lowest time in his rankings and gets top 3 he'll make it but i don't know how quickly you lose points.

It's going to be 110 degrees.

I thought I read earlier in one of your articles that rankings shouldn't be a problem for Hocker. What changed?

Should have just figured out a way to run 3:34 this year like Notre Dame runner.

If he had actually beaten the best his world ranking wouldn’t be borderline. Your premise is off.

3:40 is maybe the slowest it seems.

LOL Centro's move is gonna be to take the lead and slow the race down like in the Olympics, then when Hocker outkicks him he'll say "sucks to be you" on the homestretch as he makes yet another team.

No, the problem is that the world rankings system give more points to BS European continental tour meets than to any NCAA race, no matter how good the runners in those NCAA meets are.

Can someone explain this to me? Thought he just had to hit the standard and come too

flotrack did the math

https://twitter.com/FloTrack/status/1408623967598952450

God forbid the Brojos we’re going to do the math.

Wejo,

Did we miss this guy's closing speed this winter? We all saw a kick from this guy that was out-of-this-world. He's doing a lift/plyo-routine and hitting a muscle that the rest of us miss (or do once and forget).

I saw a different speed indoors... I think he's got the international aerobic capacity to compete with anyone and a Leo/MacDaddy speed quotient that makes him a threat in any championship race.

Wait a minute: he's a freshman too?? And has a "spaced-out"/authentic (can't think of a better description) mentality that drips I dgaf..?

AR in 5 years: Mile and 1500m, unquestionably.

-The Krispy Kremlin

krispy kremlin._._._. wrote:

Wejo,

Did we miss this guy's closing speed this winter? We all saw a kick from this guy that was out-of-this-world. He's doing a lift/plyo-routine and hitting a muscle that the rest of us miss (or do once and forget).

My guess is he kicks well bc 1) natural talent better than 99% of miles 2) he practices running pretty fast on a regular basis...you can do that raw speed work without compromising your aerobic training if you are smart about it

You msg board dweebs always think their is some secret training routine that MAYBE if you knew it & did it too you'd be that fast...lol

wejo wrote:

There's a decent change if the race is slow if Hocker finishes top 3 he won't make the team. That is nuts. This guy has run relatively fast and beaten the best. The WA ranking system should reward that. Too much emphasis is put on time.

If he wins the Trials he should be in the Olympics with the season he had. (WA should let the US pick its 3 people in any event where they hvae more than 3 people qualified).

I'm pretty confident if he gets 3rd in like a 3:39 race he'll get to go. Has anyone figure out how slow it can go for him to get in?

This is facts. If he can beat a bunch of guys who ran under the standard, then he should get in on world ranking. The system is not working if that isn't the case.

I trust they’ll find a way to have him in…

He should go if none of the current rankings change. He would be no worse than #45 if the maximum from each country declare. The issue is if another athlete jumps him in the rankings by June 29, which could happen. So boosting his ranking would be good insurance.

wejo wrote:

There's a decent change if the race is slow if Hocker finishes top 3 he won't make the team. That is nuts. This guy has run relatively fast and beaten the best. The WA ranking system should reward that. Too much emphasis is put on time.

If he wins the Trials he should be in the Olympics with the season he had. (WA should let the US pick its 3 people in any event where they hvae more than 3 people qualified).

I'm pretty confident if he gets 3rd in like a 3:39 race he'll get to go. Has anyone figure out how slow it can go for him to get in?

Hocker has "beaten the best"? Who has he beaten (not including rounds)?

He's still unproven against the pro's. He's had chances to run the standard and hasn't managed to hit it. Nuguse went out and soloed the standard in a qualifying round because he's smart and didn't want to leave things to chance. If Hocker's ranking isn't good enough, he shouldn't be selected. Everyone knows the rules going into the Trials, it would make a joke of the system to change them and it would be unfair inthe runners that worked within the rules.

Seriously, I'm getting a bit tired of LRC advocating changing rules to benefit runners that you like. First it was changing the rules on contaminated meat to let Houlihan's doping test slide, now it's changing qualification rules to let the flavor of the month onto the team even if he doesn't have the ranking or the standard

They should move the 1500m to the morning too but it’s all about tv time...way too hot for a 1500 in the hottest part of the day

Well,

the fix is to just get the time.

Clearly the talent in the field to do it. He has to do something because a sit a kick approach and he will be sitting at home kicking himself for not making it clear cut.