Seriously though is there going to be any way to get a straight answer on whether or not Norman is racing the 200m before they line up for the start?
Seriously though is there going to be any way to get a straight answer on whether or not Norman is racing the 200m before they line up for the start?
Lyles isn't on the team.
Talk to me, Goose wrote:
The further on the edge, the hotter the intensity.
LMAO
Sham 69 registered wrote:
Lyles isn't on the team.
Not yet but I was speaking in general terms regarding relay eligibility.
Ain't 1857 wrote:
With the form he has shown so far and Bednarek,Kerley,Norman in the deuce,
Lyles could be in trouble. He may not make the team.
His world has become too busy and he forgot that to run at the peak level its got be focused.
I hope he can get through the 200, but its not guaranteed. He hasn't been hungry enough.
When its easy, you know you've taken it too easy. His first 50 is slower than mine was.
Seems confident. Will need to fight like heck the last 100 as I suspect Laird, Bednarek and maybe even Kerley will be ahead of him 100 meters in.
He's covering himself for both qualifying and not qualifying in the 200 with that tweet.
Runner10287 wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong but I remember seeing that literally anyone on the USA Olympic Team could be selected to run in the relays. Like they could have put Lebron or Phelps on a leg of the 4x1 in past Olympics.
Flame away.
I don't think it's anyone on the Olympic team I think it's anyone on the Olympic TRACK & FIELD team. That's how a 400m Hurdler like Delilah Muhommad can run in the 4x400. So technically Grant Fisher is in the pool for the 4x100 (yes that is ridiculous, but at least a group of distance runners probably wouldn't drop the baton)
captainwildcat wrote:
I don't think it's anyone on the Olympic team I think it's anyone on the Olympic TRACK & FIELD team. That's how a 400m Hurdler like Delilah Muhommad can run in the 4x400. So technically Grant Fisher is in the pool for the 4x100 (yes that is ridiculous, but at least a group of distance runners probably wouldn't drop the baton)
The women's 4x4 will have 2 or 3 women who didn't run the 400m at the US trials. TBH the US could field a gold medal 4x4 team from other events.
Lyle's strength has always been speed endurance,pulling away in the straight.
But this year the fitness appears lacking and guys aren't coming back to him as
his 7th place in the 100 showed.Bednarek,Kerley,Laird and Norman will be meters
ahead of Lyles off the turn and on current form,he is not running any these guys down.
I suspect Lyles will be just fine in the 200m
Exactly. Complacency, slacking off, more worries about accessories, gloves, arm warmers, etc. Needs to grow up, change training teams. Or join Tinman Elite
Lyles should make the team, he ran 19.90 over a month ago and he just ran a season's best in the 100m. Not sure what's going on with him, but he should be able to run low19.8x. Bednarek is clearly on the come up and in my mind is the favorite. Bednarek was going to be tough to beat even if Lyles was back to his old form. Bednarek just ran a 9.89 with a poor start; he ran (19.82) 2 years ago into a negative wind and 19.80 at a small meet last year when his 100m PR was only 10.09. When a supposedly strength-based 200m specialist is faster in the 100m, he is definitely going to be much faster in the 200m. With good weather and wind, I would not be surprised to see Bednarek go sub-19.70 this week and perhaps 19.5x later in the year. Laird is going to do well, but I suspect he ran his fastest 200m back in March and even if he manages to get close to his PR, if probably won't be enough. Now, with all of the said, I assume Kerley and Norman, will not not run the 200m, but if they do... all bets are off and Lyles is definitely in trouble. Norman is capable of winning the 200m and in the case Kerley, a 400m runner who just 9.86 is someone you have take very seriously.
Why do you say poor start for Kenny B in the 100?
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Why do you say poor start for Kenny B in the 100?
Because a .307 reaction time is bad in an epic fashion.
Runner10287 wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong but I remember seeing that literally anyone on the USA Olympic Team could be selected to run in the relays. Like they could have put Lebron or Phelps on a leg of the 4x1 in past Olympics.
Flame away.
That occurs at World Championship. You're thinking about Edwin Moses racing a leg on 4 x 400m relay. I don't recall an Olympic 4 x 100m or 4 x 400m relay team not filled with top six finisher.
TrackCoach wrote:
Lyles should make the team, he ran 19.90 over a month ago and he just ran a season's best in the 100m. Not sure what's going on with him, but he should be able to run low 19.8x.
If you look at his numbers over the last few years, a couple of theories could be plausible. One theory is that Lyles and his coach are trying to delay his peak until the Olympics. Lyles peaked too early in 2019, dropping his 19.5 in early July of that year. And Lyles did talk during the indoor season about how he was doing alot of work on his speed endurance, and not focusing yet on pure speed. He said this directly after barely winning the New Balance Grand Prix with a 20.8.
But the problem with this is theory is that his times in the 100 have been slower throughout the year than in 2018 or 2019. He didn’t run slower than a 10.0 basic in any of his finals in 2018 until September, running a couple of legit 9.8’s. In 2019, he ran three basic sub-10’s after April. This year he’s run only two sub-10’s - 9.95 with +1.9, and a 9.97 with a +0.7 wind.
He’s running slower than he has in previous years by about a tenth in the 100m.
It remains to be seen what the implications are for the 200m, but I would be surprised if he breaks 19.8 during the trials. I think he still makes the team, along with Bednarek and Laird, but he won’t dominate.
That number was incorrect. Check the results now his RT was .16. Baker had the worst start. .30 would be epically bad to the eye test🪧
Sprint42 wrote:
TrackCoach wrote:
Lyles should make the team, he ran 19.90 over a month ago and he just ran a season's best in the 100m. Not sure what's going on with him, but he should be able to run low 19.8x.
If you look at his numbers over the last few years, a couple of theories could be plausible. One theory is that Lyles and his coach are trying to delay his peak until the Olympics. Lyles peaked too early in 2019, dropping his 19.5 in early July of that year. And Lyles did talk during the indoor season about how he was doing alot of work on his speed endurance, and not focusing yet on pure speed. He said this directly after barely winning the New Balance Grand Prix with a 20.8.
But the problem with this is theory is that his times in the 100 have been slower throughout the year than in 2018 or 2019. He didn’t run slower than a 10.0 basic in any of his finals in 2018 until September, running a couple of legit 9.8’s. In 2019, he ran three basic sub-10’s after April. This year he’s run only two sub-10’s - 9.95 with +1.9, and a 9.97 with a +0.7 wind.
He’s running slower than he has in previous years by about a tenth in the 100m.
It remains to be seen what the implications are for the 200m, but I would be surprised if he breaks 19.8 during the trials. I think he still makes the team, along with Bednarek and Laird, but he won’t dominate.
I get that, delaying your peak for July/August, but that is a dangerous thing to do with U.S. trials system. He better be able to run at least a low 19.80 in a couple days.
T&F utility man (200-3000)m wrote:
Runner10287 wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong but I remember seeing that literally anyone on the USA Olympic Team could be selected to run in the relays. Like they could have put Lebron or Phelps on a leg of the 4x1 in past Olympics.
Flame away.
That occurs at World Championship. You're thinking about Edwin Moses racing a leg on 4 x 400m relay. I don't recall an Olympic 4 x 100m or 4 x 400m relay team not filled with top six finisher.
FloJo anchored the 4 x 400 in Seoul.