Houlihan on FNC

Is their plan to run around to all news programs and lie their butts off? I'd rethink that if I were them. They just look worse and worse.

What's most damning is that the interviewers asked if they tested the burrito (meat) and the lawyer immediately directed the convo to the urine sample. This is it, folks...they tested the meat. Story didn't add up.

Link to the interview video?

Agreed. One of the kickers for me with Shalane and Jerry was that they insisted the found amount was trace. It was not at all trace. It was twice the allowed amount. Imagine being double the legal limit for blood alcohol level and saying you weren't drinking. They know she was microdosing and are straight lying to save their jobs.

She should have taken a trace of the drug and mixed it back with the original meat from the vendor same day she got busted.

Hopefully she told them it was FAKE NEWS that she doped.

According to the testing document you can have less than 15 and be cleared. Maybe trace isn't accurate but it is tested differently.

They can hardly keep her story straight!

TFFan wrote:

What's most damning is that the interviewers asked if they tested the burrito (meat) and the lawyer immediately directed the convo to the urine sample. This is it, folks...they tested the meat. Story didn't add up.

Obviously both samples showed nandrolone (in non-trace amounts), so this isn't a lab screw-up. If you're going to play the tainted meat excuse game, you have to prove the existence/possibility of said tainted meat. It seems like they've given up on that part. Why? For any Shelby believers/defenders it's pretty inexplicable I'm sorry.

These people have lied about so many aspects of this. Appalling.

TFFan wrote:

What's most damning is that the interviewers asked if they tested the burrito (meat) and the lawyer immediately directed the convo to the urine sample. This is it, folks...they tested the meat. Story didn't add up.

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bsohao wrote:

Agreed. One of the kickers for me with Shalane and Jerry was that they insisted the found amount was trace. It was not at all trace. It was twice the allowed amount. Imagine being double the legal limit for blood alcohol level and saying you weren't drinking. They know she was microdosing and are straight lying to save their jobs.

This is a flawed argument, just because something is a standard doesn't mean that if you double it the it can't be also labeled as a trace. For instance if I had 1 penny I would have very little money, if I have 5 times that amount then I still have very little money. We have to first know how strong the standard is before we make a judgement on what twice the legal amount means.

byron evans wrote:

Watching Houlihan and her attorney squirm their way around questions on hard-hitting Fox News Channel has sealed the deal for me.

When asked if they were appealing, they didn't even mention they ALREADY LOST their appeal.

Her attorney said her nandrolone levels where in the "very, very low range" but never put a number on it or mentioned they were 2.5x the threshold.

Also Shelby said she ate at the food truck "all the time" and "happened to ingest this hormone" without even confirming she ate any offal. She's not claiming she ate offal. It's like she is claiming the hormone itself was spiked into the carne asada she ordered.

She also claimed that "pig offal is high in nandrolone" - which isn't even true. If you eat large amounts of uncastrated pig offal one study of three people showed levels of nandrolone which would fail 10 hours after - coincidentally the exact time she uses for when she ate her burrito. Certainly not coached evidence, just coincidence that her consumption matches the one study perfectly to provide an excuse.

She eats there all the time, it's never made her test positive before, and despite her familiarity with the place, she didn't know what was in her burrito? It's crap. Although now she's not even saying she ate a burrito full of pig offal, she seems to be implying that since there is offal used at that truck that it could have contaminated her burrito, like when packages say "may contain peanuts" because processed at a facility that has peanuts.

So now, this truck would have, on this one occasion only, somehow obtained uncastrated pig offal, but not even normal uncastrated pig offal, but uncastrated pig offal that was extra special in that it contained so much nandrolone that it could contaminate other burritos to the extent that 10 hours later she would be 2.5 times over the legal limit.

Can we all just let this go now? She's got a 4 year ban and her explanation is ridiculous.

well actually wrote:

bsohao wrote:

Agreed. One of the kickers for me with Shalane and Jerry was that they insisted the found amount was trace. It was not at all trace. It was twice the allowed amount. Imagine being double the legal limit for blood alcohol level and saying you weren't drinking. They know she was microdosing and are straight lying to save their jobs.

This is a flawed argument, just because something is a standard doesn't mean that if you double it the it can't be also labeled as a trace. For instance if I had 1 penny I would have very little money, if I have 5 times that amount then I still have very little money. We have to first know how strong the standard is before we make a judgement on what twice the legal amount means.

Yeah, except that its more than reasonable to think that a large governing body specifically tasked with promoting the sport doesn't set drug standards that are unnecessary, trace, trivial, de minimis, common, or unfair. Do you have any facts that suggest the nandrolone standard is an unreasonable one?

The DUI standard analogy above is much stronger than your pennies analogy.

nhlgoalie wrote:

These people have lied about so many aspects of this. Appalling.

Cheating psycology. The cheaters go all-in when they cheat and that includes lies and denial even when evidence is against them.

Oooh that's bad. They need to keep her off camera.

That interview didn't feel right. They seemed guilty.

This is a good post.

At least they did not have Jerry do the interview. His response was the worst. His comments are no help to anyone on BTC!