If you are vaccinated, why do you care that I am not?

As I have not had the Covid -- or, if I did it, was unnoticed -- and neither did a single soul around me, all while it spiked and soared and surged and raged. So why am I going to get it now that it has virtually disappeared?

Do the fear pushers just have to claim there is a "delta variant" to get you guys back into fear mode and willing to take these emergency authorized experimental vaccines that were approved by the commissioner of the FDA that was paid off with a big job at the capital venture firm a mere six months later?

Time to wake up. We are being fear mongered for an agenda, and that agenda ain't our health and our well being. It's more money and more power for the Oligarchs and less for everyone else.

Haven't read the thread so this might have been covered already.

I've never understood the ghosting of the 20% plus of the population who have natural immunity. Add that to the 60% who have had the vaccine and we're already at herd immunity. No need to fight anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_NhmQsgy9o&t=2s

I suppose I should take that back because I think I know why the Covid "survivors" are ignored: it wouldn't serve the vaccination push narrative.

Thank you, Russian troll !!

Das Unkle wrote:

As I have not had the Covid -- or, if I did it, was unnoticed -- and neither did a single soul around me, all while it spiked and soared and surged and raged. So why am I going to get it now that it has virtually disappeared?

Do the fear pushers just have to claim there is a "delta variant" to get you guys back into fear mode and willing to take these emergency authorized experimental vaccines that were approved by the commissioner of the FDA that was paid off with a big job at the capital venture firm a mere six months later?

Time to wake up. We are being fear mongered for an agenda, and that agenda ain't our health and our well being. It's more money and more power for the Oligarchs and less for everyone else.

oh yeah, these mastermind MPH public health civil servants making windfall salaries of 70K and doctors and nurses and physician assistants who are putting in 80 hour work weeks to take care of patients are really just frothing at the mouth to grab all this newfound power they've cut on the lathe of covid restrictions.

Jefe in the CO wrote:

Haven't read the thread so this might have been covered already.

I've never understood the ghosting of the 20% plus of the population who have natural immunity. Add that to the 60% who have had the vaccine and we're already at herd immunity. No need to fight anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_NhmQsgy9o&t=2s

I suppose I should take that back because I think I know why the Covid "survivors" are ignored: it wouldn't serve the vaccination push narrative.

If we had herd immunity there wouldn't be the current somewhat stable level of infection in the community....

We are close.

I just dont understand what you people expect.

If there were safety signals we would be seeing them already. Things don't just wait for 1 year and then show up for everyone on the 366th day.

How can someone say COVID is "very" serious and then thing they are worse off with the vaccine? It just boggles my mind.

Spare me the concern trolling. The vast majority are not refusing because of actual health concerns...

LMAO. There is literally no government pressure to comply.

All throughout COVID the deniers have been acting like they are living some authoritarian resistance fantasy. I guess it's what happens when life is too good...

Get out of your bubble. It will do you good.

No wonder your mind is boggled by those who think different then you and CNN

Jefe in the CO wrote:

Haven't read the thread so this might have been covered already.

I've never understood the ghosting of the 20% plus of the population who have natural immunity. Add that to the 60% who have had the vaccine and we're already at herd immunity. No need to fight anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_NhmQsgy9o&t=2s

I suppose I should take that back because I think I know why the Covid "survivors" are ignored: it wouldn't serve the vaccination push narrative.

Very good point. The natural survivors have been swept under the rug.

They would not censor us if it were not true.

Big Pharma says "safe and effective" vaccines and the betas believe it and repeat it.

2600 bro wrote:

Jefe in the CO wrote:

Haven't read the thread so this might have been covered already.

I've never understood the ghosting of the 20% plus of the population who have natural immunity. Add that to the 60% who have had the vaccine and we're already at herd immunity. No need to fight anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_NhmQsgy9o&t=2s

I suppose I should take that back because I think I know why the Covid "survivors" are ignored: it wouldn't serve the vaccination push narrative.

If we had herd immunity there wouldn't be the current somewhat stable level of infection in the community....

We are close.

In the community of ...?

What is your rationale for health authorities ignoring a large % of the population that has natural immunity then?

Please don’t tell me you think big pharma has made less money this past year.

And fauci certainly did well enough for himself.

The small mom and pop store owners though, they lost out big. You owe them an apology.

Yawn^7 wrote:

Get out of your bubble. It will do you good.

No wonder your mind is boggled by those who think different then you and CNN

Notice the lack of explicit (or implicit) denial here.

Listen I all for constructing models of the world that motivate you. But, when you come on LRC and spew them around, you cannot get upset if I laugh.

You have no idea how power works. Or who holds it if you think it is hard working civil servants.

Let’s not also forget the other topic of big tech censoring any articles early on about the origins of Covid from a lab.

But injured and 2600 said no pressure from above.

Clowns.

Plus, let’s be real, the few nurses that did work 80 hours were wel compensated for it.

Working an 80 hour week isn’t the end of the world. People in other sectors do it all the time. I shed zero tears for them.

Yawn^7 wrote:

Let’s not also forget the other topic of big tech censoring any articles early on about the origins of Covid from a lab.

But injured and 2600 said no pressure from above.

Clowns.

I've read like 7 preprints in the past month with in-depth discussions about possible origins.

"Censorship"

You are proving my point! This is some odd fantasy you have!

Harambe wrote:

Look at the vaccine adverse event data for the average person under 30? It's even lower than COVID. Even things like myocarditis -- terrifying Big Pharma side effects -- are more common in healthy young adults after COVID than with the vaccine.

It's ok to just be scared needles, or the vaccine or whatever, but trying to paint this as some kind of rational calculation you've made is just failing.

This pretty much hits the nail on the head. The anti-vaxxers can try to make their choice sound like a rational decision made after weighing the evidence, but it basically boils down to the total opposite; for them, it's an emotional decision driven mostly by fear, or politics, or a combination of the two.

Which I guess is fine, if they'd only be honest about it.

Perfect example, here's Yawn^7 from a few pages back:

You just don’t understand science or math or common sense for that matter. But CNN said something so you gotta push it. Why think critically when others can do it for you.

I’m sorry the schools where you live failed you. But it’s simple, I can play Russian roulette for a chance at increased Covid resistance (not complete immunity mind you) or I can trust the math and my body and not point that particular gun at my head.

Trying to suggest that he's been thinking critically and that he'll "trust the math", when the math actually says that the risks of Covid far outweigh the risks of the vaccine, is dishonest, or delusional. Worrying about the long term effects of the vaccine while minimizing, or outright denying, the long term effects of Covid, is not "critical thinking".

Instead of trying to convince people that they've given this issue some thought, they might as well admit it and say "I know this may not make sense, but I'm not getting vaccinated because I hate Biden/Fauci and they're pushing it, and whatever they say to do I'm going to do the opposite". Sure, it's juvenile and irrational, but at least it's honest.

I wonder where we'd be if Trump, who's had both Covid and the vaccine, was active and visible in promoting the vaccine and encouraging people to get the shot.

There will always be some holdouts, but so much of this is political that Trump really could have had a positive effect on overcoming resistance to the vaccine.