How many previous winners of this Central Park 10k went on to win or place at nationals which has always been just a week or two after the NY mini?
Racing in hilly Central Park is not the smartest thing to do prior to a high level track middle distance race where one must win, place or show.
This Space For Rent wrote:
Isn't her agent Josh Cox?
That would explain a lot.
Technically not the end of her season, just her final victory (in theory).
She claims she does better when she races a lot, but the fact is she has bills to pay with a stay-at-home hubby and 4 kids.
She most likely made more money from that 10k in NYC than anyone else will make in the Olympics and Olympic trails. FACT.
She doesn't have to win to make the team, and I'd say she has an outside chance at the least. What's that time worth on a track, 31: low?
People act like you shouldn't even try if your odds are, like, 10%, but unlikely things happen all the time.
aztec the moronic wrote:
Cranny and Schweizer closed their 10k PR's with a 15:10 5k. Sarah Hall's 5k PR is 15:20. She never had a shot at the Olympic team in the 10k and she knows it.
Reading this made me sad. What did current WR holder close in?
...not even close
daily mail running section wrote:
Technically not the end of her season, just her final victory (in theory).
She claims she does better when she races a lot, but the fact is she has bills to pay with a stay-at-home hubby and 4 kids.
There is also a big gap. Seriously Kids do harder turn arounds between regionals and nationals every year in XC. Or doubling/tripling in track between conference, regionals, and nationals.
She probably isn't making the team. This race isn't going to be the difference.
Did anyone see Sara run down the 2019 World Marathon Championships winner in last year’s London Marathon? She looked like she was finishing a 1500 meter race in her last 400.
Just to be clear, there is nothing "stressful" about the NYC running press corps. Nothing at all.
Yinka wrote:
Did anyone see Sara run down the 2019 World Marathon Championships winner in last year’s London Marathon? She looked like she was finishing a 1500 meter race in her last 400.
Chepngetich was walking in. From 40k to the finish averaged 3:42 per km which is nearly 6 min mile pace. Hall averaged 3:22 which is 5:25 pace. Her last 400 was a 78 at best.
Ho Hum wrote:
She doesn't have to win to make the team, and I'd say she has an outside chance at the least. What's that time worth on a track, 31: low?
People act like you shouldn't even try if your odds are, like, 10%, but unlikely things happen all the time.
The chances of a sub-31 race seem pretty low so she has a shot. She's all in on this, it's her last shot at the Olympics and I wouldn't be surprised if she finds something to make the top 3.
Here's the US 2021 list, per Track and Field News:
30:47.42 Elise Cranny (NikBowTC) 02/20 The Ten
30:47.99 Karissa Schweizer (NikBowTC) 02/20 The Ten
31:08.57 Emily Infeld (NikBowTC) 02/20 The Ten
31:21.65 Ednah Kurgat (USAr) 05/14 Track Meet
31:21.78 Marielle Hall (NikBowTC) 02/20 The Ten
31:21.90 Sara Hall (Asics) 05/14 Track Meet
Other top qualifiers include Gwen Jorgensen (15:10 last year, 15:08 earlier this year), Kellyn Taylor (15:11 last year, 15:12 earlier this year, 31:07 last year), Rachel Schenider (31:09 last year), Alicia Monson (15:14 and 31:10 last year), Natosha Rogers (31:12 last year),a nd AR holder Molly Huddle.
Hall is fit and two weeks is plenty of time to recover from a 10K race. However, her competition is formidable. Unless she is capable of running close to 31 flat, which I doubt, her chances seem remote.
runderun wrote:
Ho Hum wrote:
She doesn't have to win to make the team, and I'd say she has an outside chance at the least. What's that time worth on a track, 31: low?
People act like you shouldn't even try if your odds are, like, 10%, but unlikely things happen all the time.
The chances of a sub-31 race seem pretty low so she has a shot. She's all in on this, it's her last shot at the Olympics and I wouldn't be surprised if she finds something to make the top 3.
Her best chance is a fast race so the other runners aren't able to kick as hard. She can't sprint with them. Unfortunately for her, she can't run with them at a fast pace either. Her shot was in the marathon and she blew it.
It will be warm. 31:30 will be 3rd.
colorunner123 wrote:
Here's the US 2021 list, per Track and Field News:
30:47.42 Elise Cranny (NikBowTC) 02/20 The Ten
30:47.99 Karissa Schweizer (NikBowTC) 02/20 The Ten
31:08.57 Emily Infeld (NikBowTC) 02/20 The Ten
31:21.65 Ednah Kurgat (USAr) 05/14 Track Meet
31:21.78 Marielle Hall (NikBowTC) 02/20 The Ten
31:21.90 Sara Hall (Asics) 05/14 Track Meet
Other top qualifiers include Gwen Jorgensen (15:10 last year, 15:08 earlier this year), Kellyn Taylor (15:11 last year, 15:12 earlier this year, 31:07 last year), Rachel Schenider (31:09 last year), Alicia Monson (15:14 and 31:10 last year), Natosha Rogers (31:12 last year),a nd AR holder Molly Huddle.
Hall is fit and two weeks is plenty of time to recover from a 10K race. However, her competition is formidable. Unless she is capable of running close to 31 flat, which I doubt, her chances seem remote.
don't forget Emily Sisson who has run 14:53 this year. Her PR is 30:49 from 2019.
she needs an agent wrote:
Please ask yourself why not one of the 10 Women that have run faster than Sarah decided to run in NY today? NOT ONE.
Because a trip to NY 2 weeks out from racing on the track on the other side of the country is a stupid money grab. I understand and appreciate that Sara loves to race but this is where an agent or coach needs to step in.
The travel is dumb. Racing on the hilly roads is dumb. The deservedly great hype is poor stimuli 2 weeks out.
Sara just destroyed any chance she had to be an Olympian. AGAIN
the race is June26th
see Malmo's response
yeah, i guess she should have stayed home in bed
Please tell us the 10k training plan you used fo make it to run the 10k in the Olympus and contrast it with Hall’s. What did you run in the 3 weeks leading up to the trials?
The US athletes are a full minute slower than what it takes to medal.
We've seen this rodeo before.. here was pre-Marathon Trials
Amy Cragg NIKE / Bowerman Track Club 2:21:42.00 qualified declared
Sara Hall ASICS 2:22:16.00 qualified declared
Kellyn Taylor HOKA ONE ONE NAZ Elite 2:24:28.00 qualified declared
Desiree Linden Brooks 2:26:46.00 qualified declared
Aliphine Tuliamuk HOKA ONE ONE NAZ Elite 2:26:50.00 qualified declared
aztec the moronic wrote:
colorunner123 wrote:
Here's the US 2021 list, per Track and Field News:
30:47.42 Elise Cranny (NikBowTC) 02/20 The Ten
30:47.99 Karissa Schweizer (NikBowTC) 02/20 The Ten
31:08.57 Emily Infeld (NikBowTC) 02/20 The Ten
31:21.65 Ednah Kurgat (USAr) 05/14 Track Meet
31:21.78 Marielle Hall (NikBowTC) 02/20 The Ten
31:21.90 Sara Hall (Asics) 05/14 Track Meet
Other top qualifiers include Gwen Jorgensen (15:10 last year, 15:08 earlier this year), Kellyn Taylor (15:11 last year, 15:12 earlier this year, 31:07 last year), Rachel Schenider (31:09 last year), Alicia Monson (15:14 and 31:10 last year), Natosha Rogers (31:12 last year),a nd AR holder Molly Huddle.
Hall is fit and two weeks is plenty of time to recover from a 10K race. However, her competition is formidable. Unless she is capable of running close to 31 flat, which I doubt, her chances seem remote.
don't forget Emily Sisson who has run 14:53 this year. Her PR is 30:49 from 2019.
Yes, I forgot Sisson. I don't see any way Hall finishes in the top 3. I think around 8th place is much more likely.