Oh! Also how India... who has primarily been using an inactivated virus vaccine is evidence that spike protein vaccines select for the most dangerous variants.
You cannot make this stuff up. It's like high school debate on steroids :)
Oh! Also how India... who has primarily been using an inactivated virus vaccine is evidence that spike protein vaccines select for the most dangerous variants.
You cannot make this stuff up. It's like high school debate on steroids :)
"When will the vaccinated start showing health complications?"
Dude those aren't health problems *from* the vaccine; they're health problems *with* the vaccine.
You know, the same way that 600,000 Americans haven't died *from* Covid, but *with* it?
It takes just a few days post-vaccination for some serious adverse events, like myocarditis, to surface w the mRNA vaccines. I'm sure there's more in store long term for the morons who injected themselves with AZ/JnJ blood clot shot. Those who managed to escape bizarre CVST, DICs are probably breathing a sigh of relief, that is until the subclinical anti-PF4 antibody memory cells are reactivated upon reexposure to the virus, the spike, the vaccine or heparin administration.
TROLL
Uh ... this thread seems dumb.
I'll tell you what. I got vaccinated. I'll let you know if I have any health complications.
4 months and I'm fine so far. But yeah I'll let y'all know.
just some regular guy wrote:
Uh ... this thread seems dumb.
I'll tell you what. I got vaccinated. I'll let you know if I have any health complications.
4 months and I'm fine so far. But yeah I'll let y'all know.
The concern around antibody dependent enhancement of disease is that one would be fine until there is reexposure to the offending antigen in the form of a vaccine (via booster) or virus. A paper came out today, in fact, showing that complement pathway is responsible for prompting a dysfunctional/pathogenic Tcell response. Whatever offending vaccine/protein reactivates those T cells and/or stimulates the complement pathway could cause tissue damage even in the absence of the virus.
JCLv.6.0.2 wrote:
It takes just a few days post-vaccination for some serious adverse events, like myocarditis, to surface w the mRNA vaccines. I'm sure there's more in store long term for the morons who injected themselves with AZ/JnJ blood clot shot. Those who managed to escape bizarre CVST, DICs are probably breathing a sigh of relief, that is until the subclinical anti-PF4 antibody memory cells are reactivated upon reexposure to the virus, the spike, the vaccine or heparin administration.
Please post evidence that makes you "sure" that acute adverse events (common for nearly every therapy in existence) are going to cause long-term heath complications here (very uncommon across the pharmacopeia).
Fearmongers gonna fearmonger
JCLv.6.0.2 wrote:
The concern around antibody dependent enhancement of disease is that one would be fine until there is reexposure to the offending antigen in the form of a vaccine (via booster) or virus. A paper came out today, in fact, showing that complement pathway is responsible for prompting a dysfunctional/pathogenic Tcell response. Whatever offending vaccine/protein reactivates those T cells and/or stimulates the complement pathway could cause tissue damage even in the absence of the virus.
True, all those people with prior infection who got 2 doses of vaccines are literally dying in the streets.
You are the king of rambling hypotheses that have already been disproven by real-world data.
No evidence here yet. Just an understanding of the pathogenesis of antibody dependent enhancement of disease that led to post-vaccination deaths w Dengue and RSV. The anti-PF4 antibody issue underlying the VITT/DIC cases with the JnJ/AZ shot almost certainly will raise issues down the line as eventually these ppl will have a non-COVID related embolism, be put on heparin and unfortunately suffer massive systemic clotting issues due to memory anti-PF4 antibody B cells. You kind of have to get out of your siloed mindset and actually look around for the ominous signs. Certainly the CDC isn't going to point these red flags out to you as they push to indiscriminately vaccinate the whole US population.
Well, good luck to you!
JCLv.6.0.2 wrote:
No evidence here yet. Just an understanding of the pathogenesis of antibody dependent enhancement of disease that led to post-vaccination deaths w Dengue and RSV. The anti-PF4 antibody issue underlying the VITT/DIC cases with the JnJ/AZ shot almost certainly will raise issues down the line as eventually these ppl will have a non-COVID related embolism, be put on heparin and unfortunately suffer massive systemic clotting issues due to memory anti-PF4 antibody B cells. You kind of have to get out of your siloed mindset and actually look around for the ominous signs. Certainly the CDC isn't going to point these red flags out to you as they push to indiscriminately vaccinate the whole US population.
Well, good luck to you!
Remind me if HIT has been observed in COVID patients?
Also, AFAIK many/most patients with spontaneous HIT from the viral vector vaccines have serum that does not activate platelets in the presence of heparin. Your model is simplistic to say the least.
Everyone is aware of the spontaneous clotting rare AE assocaited with the vaccines. Considering many COVID patients show similar anti-heparin-PF4 antibodies, it seems, as usual, you are selectively terrified of the vaccines.
JCLv.6.0.2 wrote:
https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(21)00364-7/abstract
Wow. One dose of a vaccine wasn't enough to provide sterilizing immunity in a.. uh... 86 year old?
STOP THE PRESSES. THE BIG LIE IS EXPOSED!
I see we've moved onto the spamming random unrelated links stage of the terminal-injured fearmonger.
JCLv.6.0.2 wrote:
just some regular guy wrote:
Uh ... this thread seems dumb.
I'll tell you what. I got vaccinated. I'll let you know if I have any health complications.
4 months and I'm fine so far. But yeah I'll let y'all know.
The concern around antibody dependent enhancement of disease is that one would be fine until there is reexposure to the offending antigen in the form of a vaccine (via booster) or virus. A paper came out today, in fact, showing that complement pathway is responsible for prompting a dysfunctional/pathogenic Tcell response. Whatever offending vaccine/protein reactivates those T cells and/or stimulates the complement pathway could cause tissue damage even in the absence of the virus.
Well, I got the Pfizer vac in January, 4 and a half months ago, and I got the Moderna vac in May.
So like I said, I'll let you know when I start having all those health complications.
Let’s get back on topic.
The original question was about when complications will arise.
1. Is myocarditis not a complication???
Since the sticking magnets are not real according to you guys, how do you explain the myocarditis that is occurring? Coincidence also?
I’m not sure how you guys can deny this vaccine is going to cause problems. There were ZERO clinical trials. You guys are the animals they are testing it on.