When will the vaccinated start showing health complications?

"When will the vaccinated start showing health complications?"

Great question.

Studies show the spike protein doesn't just stay at the injection site and produce antibodies. It travels through the bloodstream. It can cross the brain-blood barrier. It accumulates in the spleen, liver, bone marrow, ovaries, etc. Will the spike protein cause long-term problems? We simply do not know.

Some doctors are saying yes. Some are saying the vaccine will lead to mass deaths. The majority are saying it's "safe and effective." So... who do you believe? Who do you trust?

The bottom line is that everyone... everyone!... is guessing at this point.

The good news is that for some reason, new COVID cases are dropping dramatically in the US. Let's hope it continues to decline.

This thread is a Grade A Moron Magnet.

I’m running faster and my weiner is bigger. Hoping there are more variants requiring more vaccines!

Yessiree Bob wrote:

This thread is a Grade A Moron Magnet.

We are happy to have you here.

Thousands of people who were vaccinated are dying every day.

Check into it.

Yessiree Bob wrote:

Lulz

OP seems mentally unstable.

Creepy old man wrote:

Thousands of people who were vaccinated are dying every day.

Check into it.

Thanks for the link to nature news.

Rainy Day wrote:

I was debating whether or not to get the vaccine as I never feared the virus itself. All of my MD friends were getting the mRNA vaccine. I’ll take their word for it over a handful of running message board vaccine experts.

I got the second Pfizer dose 5 weeks ago. Felt bad for 2 days. The past 4 weeks has been my best running in years. Not due to the vaccine, but due to diet and training changes. However, the vaccine has not affected my training at all.

Got my 2nd Moderna shot 3 weeks ago. Felt bad for the day after. Just ran my fastest mile since 2005, so no effects on my running. I'll take the vaccine over Covid any day of the year.

Creepy old man wrote:

Thousands of people who were vaccinated are dying every day.

Check into it.

Everyone who was vaccinated is slowly dying.

A key issue is that those who choose to take the experimental "vaccine" for whatever reason essentially subscribed to the possibility of taking the boosters down the road. So if you think you've escaped the potential adverse effects this time around, you're opening the possibility of it next time if you take the booster. And this risk could go on in perpituity as it has been mentioned that "variants" could be around for an extended period of time.

Why the risk for something that most people have minimal change of dying (something like a 99% IFR) if infected? If the changes of dying was like 1 in 10, then it makes more sense..but 1 in 100 makes no sense. Even high risk category is something like 1 in 20, so maybe makes a little more sense if you fall in this group

fisky wrote:

"When will the vaccinated start showing health complications?"

Great question.

Studies show the spike protein doesn't just stay at the injection site and produce antibodies. It travels through the bloodstream. It can cross the brain-blood barrier. It accumulates in the spleen, liver, bone marrow, ovaries, etc. Will the spike protein cause long-term problems? We simply do not know.

Some doctors are saying yes. Some are saying the vaccine will lead to mass deaths. The majority are saying it's "safe and effective." So... who do you believe? Who do you trust?

The bottom line is that everyone... everyone!... is guessing at this point.

The good news is that for some reason, new COVID cases are dropping dramatically in the US. Let's hope it continues to decline.

Pretty simple. You trust the data and people that understand it and know what they are talking about rather than random people on the Internet and the opinions of friends and family that base their beliefs in fear. Knowledgeable people are not guessing, but basing their conclusions on the very low probability of vaccine side effects due to the nature of the Covid vaccines. You don't ask your hairdresser or a Youtube reviewer for car repair advice. It's highly highly likely that the only lasting effect of the vaccines will be immunity to severe Covid.

For example, this stuff about crossing the blood-brain barrier. First of all, it sounds scary, but do you even know what that means and the mechanism for how it occurs? It's pretty easy to learn that theory is based on testing of mRNA vaccines on mice from a few years ago. And then one can easily find out that the mRNA Covid vaccines contain such a small amount of potential contamination over the "blood-brain barrier" for such a limited period of time, that Covid infection actually presents a bigger risk of crossing the "blood-brain barrier" and organ damage.

Once you actually seek out how the vaccines work and the potential for any long term effects based on the nature of the vaccines, it really can put to rest many of these low probability or simply false fears being trafficed around the Internet and in person conversations.

dustydave wrote:

Obviously somethings show up quickly or a year. I have a friend who works in a hospital and he said some things with vaccines show up about 5 to 10 years later.

How conveniently vague. So 10 years from now if you get a kidney stone or hurt your Achilles you can blame it on the vaccine.

Yessiree Bob wrote:

Lulz

If you didn't have an allergic reaction to the vaccination in the first 24-48 hours, or at the most within a few weeks, then it's exceedingly unlikely anything bad is going to happen after that. Delayed reactions happening months or years later are mostly in people's imagination. Still worried about a reaction from the tetanus shot you got when you were two months old? The gluten you ate when you were five? The second hand smoke you breathed when you were 11?

Skeptic critic wrote:

A key issue is that those who choose to take the experimental "vaccine" for whatever reason essentially subscribed to the possibility of taking the boosters down the road. So if you think you've escaped the potential adverse effects this time around, you're opening the possibility of it next time if you take the booster. And this risk could go on in perpituity as it has been mentioned that "variants" could be around for an extended period of time.

Why the risk for something that most people have minimal change of dying (something like a 99% IFR) if infected? If the changes of dying was like 1 in 10, then it makes more sense..but 1 in 100 makes no sense. Even high risk category is something like 1 in 20, so maybe makes a little more sense if you fall in this group

1% of the population dying from a single cause is actually pretty high risk, considering that about 1% of the population as a whole dies every year altogether. 5% of the population suffering severe health effects from a single cause also is unprecedented. Imagine if 1 in 20 people developed asthma from poor air quality or got sick from poor water quality. That problem would be ever present in our lives and we probably would want to do something to prevent (we have, by the way, it's called the Clean Air Act). Those numbers are high enough to disrupt the fabric of a society in terms of not having enough people to keep the wheels turning, and are worth taking steps to minimize.

By the way, if 1 in 10 people died from anything, our society would basically collapse. See Europe in World War II.

dustydave wrote:

Obviously somethings show up quickly or a year. I have a friend who works in a hospital and he said some things with vaccines show up about 5 to 10 years later.

Oh, you know I guy who works in a hospital? Well that settles it then...

fisky wrote:

"When will the vaccinated start showing health complications?"

Great question.

Studies show the spike protein doesn't just stay at the injection site and produce antibodies. It travels through the bloodstream. It can cross the brain-blood barrier. It accumulates in the spleen, liver, bone marrow, ovaries, etc. Will the spike protein cause long-term problems? We simply do not know.

Some doctors are saying yes. Some are saying the vaccine will lead to mass deaths. The majority are saying it's "safe and effective." So... who do you believe? Who do you trust?

The bottom line is that everyone... everyone!... is guessing at this point.

The good news is that for some reason, new COVID cases are dropping dramatically in the US. Let's hope it continues to decline.

Half life of basically every component of the vaccine is under 6 weeks. LNP molecules are the longest.

Viruses also encode the spike protein. If you are concerned about spike proteins killing your brain, COVID is far worse.

There is basically no precedent for a compound that causes zero toxicity for months/years and then suddenly kills everyone. A mechanism for that is hard to propose. Add in the fact that bio-molecules degrade and it gets even trickier.

Skeptic critic wrote:

A key issue is that those who choose to take the experimental "vaccine" for whatever reason essentially subscribed to the possibility of taking the boosters down the road. So if you think you've escaped the potential adverse effects this time around, you're opening the possibility of it next time if you take the booster. And this risk could go on in perpituity as it has been mentioned that "variants" could be around for an extended period of time.

Why the risk for something that most people have minimal change of dying (something like a 99% IFR) if infected? If the changes of dying was like 1 in 10, then it makes more sense..but 1 in 100 makes no sense. Even high risk category is something like 1 in 20, so maybe makes a little more sense if you fall in this group

If you are really, really, really scared of the vaccine you could always refuse possible boosters? Nobody is forcing you to even get the second dose of the standard schedule.

Somehow people think a vaccine that has been in millions now with only extremely rare safety signals is less preferable to COVID, which makes people sick for weeks, or puts them in the hospital, or gives them weird immune disorders, or kills them. And you will never convince them otherwise!

amchugh89 wrote:

J and j I’m already thru the danger window

Mrna is sketch

Sure about that?

Everybody I know in the medical/scientific fields say that the mRNA vaccines are considerably less sketchy than adenovirus vaccines.

With the case of the J and J vaccine, the adenovirus is just another step in the system for something to potentially go wrong. Moderna and Pfizer vaccines have less "moving parts" and a more natural system, with no need for adenovirus introduction.