How do you stop one of these hooligans from getting into a sports arena again by simply buying a ticket through some 3rd party? Do workers have a photo album with pictures of all persona non-grata who are not to be let in? Identification software? Doesn't seem like a foolproof system.
Parents need to raise their children so they don't grow up to spit, thow popcorn and water bottles as other people.
If he shows up and someone recognizes him or if he gets into any trouble, he would be charged with criminal trespassing or something like that.
How long does the NBA ban for drug offenses?
Spousal abuse?
Running up into the crowd and beating the $hit out of an innocent man? Oh wait, we do know that one. 86 games, right Ron Artest?
Unequal justice wrote:
How long does the NBA ban for drug offenses?
Spousal abuse?
Running up into the crowd and beating the $hit out of an innocent man? Oh wait, we do know that one. 86 games, right Ron Artest?
Good comparison because the (fake) woke mob wants to ban and cancel everyone for life who they go after or don't agree with their opinion so they can feel better about themselves. The nba is trying to turn into the (fake) woke mob. They are just trying to please the mob. If a player threw a water bottle at a fan and the tables were turned, the narrative would be totally different. The player might get a one game suspension if they're not a great player and the natrative would be, "the fan deserved it."
And the fan probably would deserve it. You don't see athletes charging into the stands randomly. Maybe if fans conduct themselves decently they don't get people wanting to attack them. As to this situation, the Celtics need to come down hard on fans like that because they need to set an example and nip this sort of crap in the bud if they can.
Pretty sure that if I throw a brick at a cop and get caught I'll face criminal charges. Now I may be able to get away with it but that doesn't mean it's okay.
I will say that I do not condone any fan violence or abusive behavior. It has to stop and the players deserve protection. Let me make that clear. I'm just pointing out that there's a double standard and overreaction in an effort to please to losers of the woke mob who just want to feel convivial about themselves by throwing histerical tantrums trying to force a hand.
HRE wrote:
Pretty sure that if I throw a brick at a cop and get caught I'll face criminal charges. Now I may be able to get away with it but that doesn't mean it's okay.
Correct, it really is that simple but there’ll be all kinds of mental gymnastics by the usual victims who post here.
on a loop wrote:
STEVE THE ADDICT^^^^^^""""""""--^' wrote:
I will say that I do not condone any fan violence or abusive behavior. It has to stop and the players deserve protection. Let me make that clear. I'm just pointing out that there's a double standard and overreaction in an effort to please to losers of the woke mob who just want to feel convivial about themselves by throwing histerical tantrums trying to force a hand.
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Nope. The brain loop is succintly possessed by the (fake) woke SJW mob. I am NOT them.
Shapiro beautifully explains the ESPN (fake) woke logic and why they aim to please the brain looping leftist liberals. "Some Bubble think and some actual market research that's driving ESPN to the left." Their espn script is carefully constructed. They don't even believe most of the stuff they say themselves. But the dumb leftists certainly believe it all.
If I was neutral politically you'd honestly put me off the right by constantly going on about this stuff and bringing it into each thread. It discredits your cause because it makes you look unreasonable.
on a loop wrote:
HRE wrote:
Pretty sure that if I throw a brick at a cop and get caught I'll face criminal charges. Now I may be able to get away with it but that doesn't mean it's okay.
Correct, it really is that simple but there’ll be all kinds of mental gymnastics by the usual victims who post here.
Is it “that simple”? Americans are truly bizarre.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.abc27.com/news/this-was-a-mob-this-was-not-protesters-several-officers-injured-65-arrested-in-violent-scene-in-providence/amp/https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/08/24/officer-knocked-out-by-brick-thrown-in-kenosha-as-protesters-shout-f-k-the-police/amp/https://blockclubchicago.org/2020/07/20/vigilantes-hijacked-peaceful-columbus-protest-to-pick-a-fight-with-police-mayor-says/Unequal justice wrote:
How long does the NBA ban for drug offenses?
Spousal abuse?
Running up into the crowd and beating the $hit out of an innocent man? Oh wait, we do know that one. 86 games, right Ron Artest?
Apples and oranges. So fans should be able to throw objects at players and not suffer any repercussions? Is that what you're saying here? You're upset the stupid fan was banned for life? Dumb@ss.
HRE wrote:
And the fan probably would deserve it. You don't see athletes charging into the stands randomly. Maybe if fans conduct themselves decently they don't get people wanting to attack them. As to this situation, the Celtics need to come down hard on fans like that because they need to set an example and nip this sort of crap in the bud if they can.
It was a damned water bottle.
Toss him for the game.
If he does anything like that again, then a more serious banning.
The Unkle wrote:
It was a damned water bottle.
Toss him for the game.
If he does anything like that again, then a more serious banning.
A full water bottle to the face could easily break a nose or damage an eye. You don't get to assault people because you bought a ticket to a game. Act like a responsible adult or suffer the consequences. A lifetime ban is completely appropriate.
The Unkle wrote:
HRE wrote:
And the fan probably would deserve it. You don't see athletes charging into the stands randomly. Maybe if fans conduct themselves decently they don't get people wanting to attack them. As to this situation, the Celtics need to come down hard on fans like that because they need to set an example and nip this sort of crap in the bud if they can.
It was a damned water bottle.
Toss him for the game.
If he does anything like that again, then a more serious banning.
The game was over bud.
I have a feeling if someone threw a mini stuffed animal at Donald Trump you would want them locked up for attempted murder, let's not gloss over why you are OK with someone (who happens to be white) throwing something at Kyrie.
The Unkle wrote:
HRE wrote:
And the fan probably would deserve it. You don't see athletes charging into the stands randomly. Maybe if fans conduct themselves decently they don't get people wanting to attack them. As to this situation, the Celtics need to come down hard on fans like that because they need to set an example and nip this sort of crap in the bud if they can.
It was a damned water bottle.
Toss him for the game.
If he does anything like that again, then a more serious banning.
So if someone throws a water bottle at your mom or wife on the street tomorrow, you'd shrug it off and keep it moving?
black irish wrote:
The Unkle wrote:
It was a damned water bottle.
Toss him for the game.
If he does anything like that again, then a more serious banning.
So if someone throws a water bottle at your mom or wife on the street tomorrow, you'd shrug it off and keep it moving?
That's not really a relevant response. The Unkle's argument was regarding whether the punishment is proportional to the crime. First offence - Toss him from the game. Repeat offence - More serious banning. The justice system is structured this way: Speeding ticket: fine --> bigger fine --> licence suspension. Petty crime: probation --> conditional sentence --> incarceration.
As others have pointed out, there is a double standard at play: Fan assaults player - banned for life. Player assaults fan - short suspension. Then there is the issue of what do you do when the stadium security assault the visiting coach!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z99xiDFNPkUThe journalist was sentenced to three years in prison and spent nine months. If someone touches a police officer during an arrest it’s felony assault and resisting arrest. Here, the DA is coming down with a stronger charge in hopes of a plea deal. If someone throws a water bottle at POTUS (GOP or DEM) they’re going to be arrested and charged. Some of you morans are forgetting that the Boston Garden and the NBA are private enterprises with their own set of rules.
Casinos can ban for life unruly guests but I guess that wouldn’t make the white grievance thread of the day.
Raddison wrote:
The Unkle's argument was regarding whether the punishment is proportional to the crime. First offence - Toss him from the game. Repeat offence - More serious banning. The justice system is structured this way: Speeding ticket: fine --> bigger fine --> licence suspension. Petty crime: probation --> conditional sentence --> incarceration.
As others have pointed out, there is a double standard at play: Fan assaults player - banned for life. Player assaults fan - short suspension. Then there is the issue of what do you do when the stadium security assault the visiting coach!
There is no double standard. Malice at the Palace was over 15 years ago and Artest was assaulted/provoked by the fan first. If you walk into a business establishment and throw a water bottle at an employee, it is the owner's prerogative to ensure that you don't get a second chance to f*ck up his business and injure his workers. Complaining that this is somehow contrary to the US justice system is asinine. You do not have a constitutional right to attend a basketball game and act however you want.