Masks Didn't Slow COVID Spread: New Study

Randy Republican wrote:

The idea that "viruses" can be spread by small spit droplets when people exhale is absurd. "Diseases" are spread telepathically through the public consciousness by the liberal media, by stoking irrational anxiety and worry. Only the mentally weak get "sick", because they convince themselves that they are. Classic victim mentality. If you are healthy, lift weights, and pray every day, then you are immunized against any and all "viruses."

I swear to God we had a poster on this forum who basically espoused those views minus the use of the word telepathically.

trashcan wrote:

Randy Republican wrote:

The idea that "viruses" can be spread by small spit droplets when people exhale is absurd. "Diseases" are spread telepathically through the public consciousness by the liberal media, by stoking irrational anxiety and worry. Only the mentally weak get "sick", because they convince themselves that they are. Classic victim mentality. If you are healthy, lift weights, and pray every day, then you are immunized against any and all "viruses."

I swear to God we had a poster on this forum who basically espoused those views minus the use of the word telepathically.

RIP Allen53 and dunes runner. Gone from LRC it seems.

wazzu1452 wrote:

The study notes that "80% of US states mandated masks during the COVID-19 pandemic" and while "mandates induced greater mask compliance, [they] did not predict lower growth rates when community spread was low (minima) or high (maxima)." Among other things, the study—conducted using data from the CDC covering multiple seasons—reports that "mask mandates and use are not associated with lower SARS-CoV-2 spread among US states."

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.18.21257385v1

So you got vaccinated then right? If masks don't work you need the vaccine!

I will also say that dividing the states into early and late adopters of nana dates based on whether one was in place on August 2nd has an additional problem. The first is taking a continuous variable and making it binary. The second, and more significant problem, is that date really isn’t an appropriate measure as to whether a mandate was early or late for a given state. August 2nd was incredibly late for New York State. It was early for Montana. A more reasonable variable would be something along the lines of “percent of population that has been hospitalized (or died) due to Covid at the time manatee were implemented.” That would tell you what stage a given state was in when the mandate was implemented.

For example, I would say that New York was actually a late adopter(without looking at the numbers)

California was an early mandate adopter

Harambe wrote:

trashcan wrote:

I swear to God we had a poster on this forum who basically espoused those views minus the use of the word telepathically.

RIP Allen53 and dunes runner. Gone from LRC it seems.

I don't know about dunes runner but I think Allen posts once in awhile at my favorite site for Covid discussions; Jon Rappoport, who's an investigative journalist and has been investigating pandemics for decades. So, if you think you know it all and believe the vaccines are safe - you might want to engage is some discussion with some of the very knowledgeable posters over there:

Minutemen wrote:

RIP Allen53 and dunes runner. Gone from LRC it seems.

I don't know about dunes runner but I think Allen posts once in awhile at my favorite site for Covid discussions; Jon Rappoport, who's an investigative journalist and has been investigating pandemics for decades. So, if you think you know it all and believe the vaccines are safe - you might want to engage is some discussion with some of the very knowledgeable posters over there:

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Uhhh.. the article you posted immediately starts talking about the age-old fearmonger talking point of 'suspected cases' in the vaccine trials. Those were people that presented with any one of many possible COVID associated symptoms and were then tested. Only positive cases were recorded because, you know, you can have a cough and not have COVID.

Heck, if you have a cough you most likely don't have COVID, just look at test positivities over the last few months. Or even from the start of the pandemic when only symptomatic were being tested.

The study designs registered with the FDA says that all suspected cases would tested for COVID.

Given the great success of the mRNA vaccines since this dumb talking point was trotted out (look at test positivity, to start), it's safe to say this guy is just another grifter clinging to talking point to sell ads on his blog.

Lots of libs jumpin thru hoops in here trying to explain this one

lol

33inch wrote:

Lots of libs jumpin thru hoops in here trying to explain this one

lol

Better than the conservatives just making stuff up

Harambe wrote:

33inch wrote:

Lots of libs jumpin thru hoops in here trying to explain this one

lol

Better than the conservatives just making stuff up

So, who let you out of your cage and made you an authority?

RichardRider wrote:

So, who let you out of your cage and made you an authority?

I just know more than the fearmongering anti-vaxxers, to begin with. Their basic misunderstanding of simple math and eager consumption of the most baseless conspiracy theories demonstrates this.

My friend got his vax at a synagogue... WTF!!!!

Das Unkles wrote:

My friend got his vax at a synagogue... WTF!!!!

Fake Unkle alert.

For those trying to keep up, the latest studies show:

- the virus likely started in the lab

- China may have unleashed it intentionally

- people who had it likely don't need the vax

- the masks likely did nothing

mask show you care... and you care MUCH more than those that don't wear masks.

Speedy1966 wrote:

For those trying to keep up, the latest studies show:

- the virus likely started in the lab

- China may have unleashed it intentionally

- people who had it likely don't need the vax

- the masks likely did nothing

For those trying to keep up, a Trumper Culture Warrior has chimed in^^

-I thought it was a "hoax" and "gone by Easter" and China was "doing a great job"?

-Laughable

-Nowhere near enough data to reach this conclusion, plus little apparent downside to getting the vaccine. But you are not required to get it.

-Mask study is a joke.

Be like Florida. Do not be like Oregon or Seattle.

https://rumble.com/vhpafz-kids-should-not-be-required-to-wear-masks-in-schools.html

Speedy1966 wrote:

Be like Florida. Do not be like Oregon or Seattle.

https://rumble.com/vhpafz-kids-should-not-be-required-to-wear-masks-in-schools.html

This is what happens when you read your twitter feed and don't know facts.

Miami Dade County, Broward, Palm Beach and Monroe Counties all had very strict mask requirements still in place up until very recently. Despite what DeSantis wanted, politicians in those Counties stuck to things like masking and have heavily pushed for vaccinations. Mask mandates have been significantly relaxed, but most people still wear their masks inside stores in South Florida. The rest of the state has been and continues to be a bleep show.

Speedy1966 wrote:

- the virus likely started in the lab

- China may have unleashed it intentionally

1 is reasonable

2 is tinfoil hat

yawn