cool story wrote:
Caleb's Hat wrote:
Yep. Then the looney wing really took over.
Which candidates in Portland won election in 2017 to cause such significant change?
Also who were the elected Democrats prior to that that deserve so much credit for the cities success up to that point?
Are you trying to convince yourself that the spike in crime, drug use, theft, riots, and homelessness has nothing to do with politics?
Caleb's Hat wrote:
cool story wrote:
Which candidates in Portland won election in 2017 to cause such significant change?
Also who were the elected Democrats prior to that that deserve so much credit for the cities success up to that point?
Are you trying to convince yourself that the spike in crime, drug use, theft, riots, and homelessness has nothing to do with politics?
No idea how you drew that conclusion, it’s wrong.
You said the loony left taking control of the Democrat party in Portland have caused this demise since 2017. Now I’m asking you to tell us what changed.
Who was elected? Unelected?
It should be easy for you to back up your claim, cause your claim is no doubt accurate.
cool story wrote:
Caleb's Hat wrote:
Are you trying to convince yourself that the spike in crime, drug use, theft, riots, and homelessness has nothing to do with politics?
No idea how you drew that conclusion, it’s wrong.
You said the loony left taking control of the Democrat party in Portland have caused this demise since 2017. Now I’m asking you to tell us what changed.
Who was elected? Unelected?
It should be easy for you to back up your claim, cause your claim is no doubt accurate.
Ted Wheeler. Want to guess which year he was elected as mayor?
I was hoping you’d pop up with this Rupp.
Ted Wheeler - a former Republican and moderate Democrat.
He won re-election in 2020 beating out Sarah Lannarone. Now she was the far left candidate. Look her up.
Wheeler a moderate former Republican is NOT proof of a radical political shift at all.
Try again fellas.
Wheeler the former registered Republican is so radical, the radicals attacked his home.
https://www.insider.com/portland-mayor-ted-wheeler-moving-condo-violent-protest-2020-9
Cool story fellas.
This is who Wheeler defeated last year. So Portland elected the moderate previously registered Republican versus a radical leftist Mayor.
cool story wrote:
I was hoping you’d pop up with this Rupp.
Ted Wheeler - a former Republican and moderate Democrat.
He won re-election in 2020 beating out Sarah Lannarone. Now she was the far left candidate. Look her up.
Wheeler a moderate former Republican is NOT proof of a radical political shift at all.
Try again fellas.
I don't care what his politics are, he's an idiot from everything Portland residents and the media say about him. I have only heard about him because he refuses to crack down on the political violence in Portland. Although I am not stupid enough to believe all of Portland's problems stem from a single person, but he hasn't been able to deal with the problems in front of him and his election into office does seem to align with when people and the media started to talk about problems in Portland.
Let it Rupp wrote:
cool story wrote:
I was hoping you’d pop up with this Rupp.
Ted Wheeler - a former Republican and moderate Democrat.
He won re-election in 2020 beating out Sarah Lannarone. Now she was the far left candidate. Look her up.
Wheeler a moderate former Republican is NOT proof of a radical political shift at all.
Try again fellas.
I don't care what his politics are, he's an idiot from everything Portland residents and the media say about him. I have only heard about him because he refuses to crack down on the political violence in Portland. Although I am not stupid enough to believe all of Portland's problems stem from a single person, but he hasn't been able to deal with the problems in front of him and his election into office does seem to align with when people and the media started to talk about problems in Portland.
Regarding the first bolded point. In that case you should have stayed out of the discussion myself and another poster were having. A discussion in which another poster said that a shift in the Democrat Party to the radical left in Portland caused all of this. I asked for evidence and he presented none. You interjected with Ted Wheeler and I exposed that also, as Wheeler doesn’t fit that category at all.
Regarding the second bolded point. Agreed and that backs up my argument and undermines the other posters rhetoric. In short you’ve brought nothing to the discussion except to expose your Calebs Hat’s rhetoric.
Did you even have a point?
cool story wrote:
Let it Rupp wrote:
I don't care what his politics are, he's an idiot from everything Portland residents and the media say about him. I have only heard about him because he refuses to crack down on the political violence in Portland. Although I am not stupid enough to believe all of Portland's problems stem from a single person, but he hasn't been able to deal with the problems in front of him and his election into office does seem to align with when people and the media started to talk about problems in Portland.
Regarding the first bolded point. In that case you should have stayed out of the discussion myself and another poster were having. A discussion in which another poster said that a shift in the Democrat Party to the radical left in Portland caused all of this. I asked for evidence and he presented none. You interjected with Ted Wheeler and I exposed that also, as Wheeler doesn’t fit that category at all.
Regarding the second bolded point. Agreed and that backs up my argument and undermines the other posters rhetoric. In short you’ve brought nothing to the discussion except to expose your Calebs Hat’s rhetoric.
Did you even have a point?
You asked me to name specific politicians elected in 2017. I did not say any such election took place in 2017. It has been a decades long shift from moderate-left to far-left and 2017-to-present was only a tipping point where the consequences came to roost.
Caleb's Hat wrote:
cool story wrote:
Regarding the first bolded point. In that case you should have stayed out of the discussion myself and another poster were having. A discussion in which another poster said that a shift in the Democrat Party to the radical left in Portland caused all of this. I asked for evidence and he presented none. You interjected with Ted Wheeler and I exposed that also, as Wheeler doesn’t fit that category at all.
Regarding the second bolded point. Agreed and that backs up my argument and undermines the other posters rhetoric. In short you’ve brought nothing to the discussion except to expose your Calebs Hat’s rhetoric.
Did you even have a point?
You asked me to name specific politicians elected in 2017. I did not say any such election took place in 2017. It has been a decades long shift from moderate-left to far-left and 2017-to-present was only a tipping point where the consequences came to roost.
You’re creating a new narrative but that doesn’t work either.
Rupp said that as recently as 2017 that Portland was ranked the 3rd most desirable city. I asked specifically what changed since 2017. I was very clear, I can bump it if you’d like. That is what your replied to.
Caleb's Hat wrote:
cool story wrote:
So in 2017 when Portland was ranked 3rd most desirable city it was also Democrat run. Got it.
Yep. Then the looney wing really took over.
Your words Caleb. Cool story has your number. Game, set and match.
cool story wrote:
Caleb's Hat wrote:
You asked me to name specific politicians elected in 2017. I did not say any such election took place in 2017. It has been a decades long shift from moderate-left to far-left and 2017-to-present was only a tipping point where the consequences came to roost.
You’re creating a new narrative but that doesn’t work either.
Rupp said that as recently as 2017 that Portland was ranked the 3rd most desirable city. I asked specifically what changed since 2017. I was very clear, I can bump it if you’d like. That is what your replied to.
What changed since 2017? Police allowed antifa to riot and drug users to take over the streets between downtown and the waterfront and "moderate" Ted Wheeler did nothing about it until he eventually had to move out of his condo. What do YOU think changed?
Ciro wrote:
Caleb's Hat wrote:
Yep. Then the looney wing really took over.
Your words Caleb. Cool story has your number. Game, set and match.
Bump, you’re floundering Caleb.
Cool story: “So in 2017 when Portland was ranked 3rd most desirable city it was also Democrat run”
You:” Yep. Then the looney wing really took over”
Since then you have failed COMPLETELY to show a shift within the Democrats in Portland when you claim “the looney wing really took over”.
It’s fun watching you dig deeper and deeper.
You right wing guys are obsessed with Portland. Cool, so don’t move here.
You know how often I think about the right wing utopia you come from, wherever that may be? Never. I don’t freaking care. You weirdos.
undeliverable celebrities wrote:
ultramarine wrote:
Not just Portland, per se, but the entire progressive Left Coast (Bay Area to Seattle, basically). Portland just happened to have a TV show made about it.
In short: An infantilized, over-educated middle class, using their abundant time and more than modest means to cast out for something "important" to be a part of. It was only a matter of time before they wandered into the middle of a game which they were far to naïve to comprehend, and which would ultimately imperil their taken for granted material security--of which, by the way, they were always hapless beneficiaries, never conscious architects.
Berkeley is a similar city; there are probably many other enclaves like it across the country. They ride the ripples of imperial prosperity, but miscast their minor distance from the Empire's epicenter as a more fundamental remove from it's orbit.
The result has been depressing, albeit entirely predictable.
Please. Still a much much more desirable place to live than Anywhere in the South. Please.
Nope.
Try as you might, Portland is a disgusting place with litter, needles, and piles of chit on the sidewalks.
The South has prettier cities, less trash, less crime, and notably, a lot more Black- Americans.
A small handful of Southern cities easily superior to Portland in every way:
Savannah GA
Columbus SC
Nashville, TN
Chapel Hill, NC
Austin TX
Any town in VA
Cleaner, more diverse, and safer not to mention WAY
more culturally relevant than Portland
Portland music scene??? Laughable!
Portland diversity?? (Even more laughable watching pasty-white guys protesting BLM in Portland without a single black-American among them)
Portland weather?? Sux too
New Orleans might actually be dirtier than Portland.
....But New Orleans is a world class Jazz city with 1000 times more soul and character than Portland.
I'm from CO, but I'd rather live in the South than Portland any day
leftover chango wrote:
You right wing guys are obsessed with Portland. Cool, so don’t move here.
You know how often I think about the right wing utopia you come from, wherever that may be? Never. I don’t freaking care. You weirdos.
You can always tell when liberals are trying to deflect when they call someone they disagree with "obsessed" with the topic at hand. Dude why are you so obsessed with what conservatives (although I don't know where you got the idea that everybody talking sh!t on Portland is a conservative) have to say? Cool, just don't read their opinions!
I don't think it's weird to be interested in how cities like San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, LA, and now places in Colorado all turn into cesspools following progressive policies that promote crime (like how San Fran basically legalized theft a few years ago and now Portland not cracking down on rioting) and urban decay.
I've always wanted to move out west but now wouldn't move there if I had a gun to my head after having both my dad (from CA) and grandmother (from OR) tell me how bad their native cities have gotten. Looks like down south like NC is going to be the move but not a city.
Let it Rupp wrote:
leftover chango wrote:
You right wing guys are obsessed with Portland. Cool, so don’t move here.
You know how often I think about the right wing utopia you come from, wherever that may be? Never. I don’t freaking care. You weirdos.
You can always tell when liberals are trying to deflect when they call someone they disagree with "obsessed" with the topic at hand. Dude why are you so obsessed with what conservatives (although I don't know where you got the idea that everybody talking sh!t on Portland is a conservative) have to say? Cool, just don't read their opinions!
I don't think it's weird to be interested in how cities like San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, LA, and now places in Colorado all turn into cesspools following progressive policies that promote crime (like how San Fran basically legalized theft a few years ago and now Portland not cracking down on rioting) and urban decay.
I've always wanted to move out west but now wouldn't move there if I had a gun to my head after having both my dad (from CA) and grandmother (from OR) tell me how bad their native cities have gotten. Looks like down south like NC is going to be the move but not a city.
+1
Portland is a cesspool of violence and homelessness. 100% destroyed by total democrat control.
Same with Seattle.
“I have a great idea. Let’s decriminalize petty crime and allow homelessness tents to be set up in front of our businesses downtown” ~ The Progressives
There are only a few places on earth where radicals and their children ritualistically burn the American flag and chant “Death to America”: Tehran, Baghdad, Beirut, Kabul, Ramallah—and Portland, Oregon.
Famously the “whitest city in America,” Portland has become the unlikely headquarters of race radicalism in the United States. The city has elevated white guilt into a civic religion; its citizens have developed rituals, devotions, and self-criticisms to fight “systemic racism” and “white supremacy.”
https://www.city-journal.org/critical-race-theory-portland-public-schools?wallit_nosession=1
ultramarine wrote:
Not just Portland, per se, but the entire progressive Left Coast (Bay Area to Seattle, basically).
Do you even know what “per se” means, you uneducated nitwit?
YaNo wrote:
undeliverable celebrities wrote:
Please. Still a much much more desirable place to live than Anywhere in the South. Please.
Nope.
Try as you might, Portland is a disgusting place with litter, needles, and piles of chit on the sidewalks.
The South has prettier cities, less trash, less crime, and notably, a lot more Black- Americans.
A small handful of Southern cities easily superior to Portland in every way:
Savannah GA
Columbus SC
Nashville, TN
Chapel Hill, NC
Austin TX
Any town in VA
Cleaner, more diverse, and safer not to mention WAY
more culturally relevant than Portland
Portland music scene??? Laughable!
Portland diversity?? (Even more laughable watching pasty-white guys protesting BLM in Portland without a single black-American among them)
Portland weather?? Sux too
New Orleans might actually be dirtier than Portland.
....But New Orleans is a world class Jazz city with 1000 times more soul and character than Portland.
I'm from CO, but I'd rather live in the South than Portland any day
Austin I know is a Democrat city.
I’d say a few others on the list are too. That many not matter to you but it’s everything to most of the posters on this thread.