the causes for Portland's decline were well document in "Portlandia"

Brilliant stuff. Too complex for liberals to comprehend.

What a pile of yuppie p!ss.

About 15 years ago, I was very enthralled with the idea of moving to Portland. Craft beer, chill vibes, reclaimed wood and Edison lightbulbs, the great outdoors, what could be better?

Imagine thinking Portland was a “chill vibes” kind of place at one time. It’s hilarious and sad to see what has become of the place.

Old Millennial wrote:

About 15 years ago, I was very enthralled with the idea of moving to Portland. Craft beer, chill vibes, reclaimed wood and Edison lightbulbs, the great outdoors, what could be better?

Imagine thinking Portland was a “chill vibes” kind of place at one time. It’s hilarious and sad to see what has become of the place.

I think a lot of people (myself included) felt this way 5, 10 or 15 years ago about Portland. Now? I wouldn't even travel there.

But to be fair, you can get the craft beer/small plates/edison bulb/reclaimed wood experienced in pretty much any city or town with a little bit of money now.

I hear the virtue signaling with masks is insane in Portland right now. People are yelling at you for not wearing a mask outdoors- even if you're fully vaccinated.

Probably the same is happening in California and other hippy pockets of the country. It's ironic they want to espouse following science, but when the CDC makes a science based recommendation they turn a blind eye. Those people are crazy.

maskless liberal democrat wrote:

I hear the virtue signaling with masks is insane in Portland right now. People are yelling at you for not wearing a mask outdoors- even if you're fully vaccinated.

Probably the same is happening in California and other hippy pockets of the country. It's ironic they want to espouse following science, but when the CDC makes a science based recommendation they turn a blind eye. Those people are crazy.

Lived in Portland throughout the pandemic and ran daily without a mask, no one ever yelled at me.

Don’t believe everything you hear.

Great analysis. Portland is best now described as a pit of nihilistic and hedonistic chaos.

maskless liberal democrat wrote:

I hear the virtue signaling with masks is insane in Portland right now. People are yelling at you for not wearing a mask outdoors- even if you're fully vaccinated.

Probably the same is happening in California and other hippy pockets of the country. It's ironic they want to espouse following science, but when the CDC makes a science based recommendation they turn a blind eye. Those people are crazy.

They will ultimately cause the demise of their own cities, and then look for an external cause to blame. Not learning from mistakes and still hopelessly naive, they will continue on to other cities, where the cycle will continue.

Libs never learn.

Excellent.

Yuppy +Hippy +Hipster soft-headedness has attracted the lowest common denominators of society who will rip it apart end-to-end both from the top (corporate exploitation and politicos) and the bottom (vandalism, crime and drugs). As you point out, they grew up entitled in a society which they benefited from but did not create and therefore lack any real sense of agency, connection or groundedness, and so neither really notice nor care when it is gutted like dead carp.

Brilliant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMtadPdIoWw

cool story wrote:

maskless liberal democrat wrote:

I hear the virtue signaling with masks is insane in Portland right now. People are yelling at you for not wearing a mask outdoors- even if you're fully vaccinated.

Probably the same is happening in California and other hippy pockets of the country. It's ironic they want to espouse following science, but when the CDC makes a science based recommendation they turn a blind eye. Those people are crazy.

Lived in Portland throughout the pandemic and ran daily without a mask, no one ever yelled at me.

Don’t believe everything you hear.

I was there a year before the pandemic, it was fantastic.

I find it hard to believe it has declined to the extend people on the internet want you to think.

Free_the_thigh wrote:

cool story wrote:

Lived in Portland throughout the pandemic and ran daily without a mask, no one ever yelled at me.

Don’t believe everything you hear.

I was there a year before the pandemic, it was fantastic.

I find it hard to believe it has declined to the extend people on the internet want you to think.

Well, in 2021 it ranks 66th on the list of most desirable cities according to the Urban Land Institute. In 2017 it was ranked 3rd. I don't think it is a coincidence that we see news about riots and increased homelessness, anecdotes from people and survey research showing that the city has dramatically declined. I am sure it's still a relatively nice place to be in some areas, but definitely not the place it once was. If it is anything like Los Angeles, which was a sh!thole when I went and I was in the nice tourist areas, I can see why Portland has gained its reputation.

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It's also difficult to reverse this downhill slide. People already have the word and either want to move out or stay away. The greedy homeowners are delusional and think they can sell for a big profit but they don't even realize their city is widely considered a dump where people generally don't want to go unless really desperate.

Free_the_thigh wrote:

I was there a year before the pandemic, it was fantastic.

I find it hard to believe it has declined to the extend people on the internet want you to think.

Yeah, don’t listen to the Chicken Littles. Aside from hikers on Wildwood hucking themselves off the trail, averting their face and covering their mouths when I would approach from the opposite direction, Portland wasn’t all that bad this past year.

If the previous poster had bought a house, any house, 15 years ago, they would have realized a sizable gain that more than made up for the discomfort of living amongst libs.

STEVE THE ADDICT^^^^^^""""""""--^' wrote:

It's also difficult to reverse this downhill slide. People already have the word and either want to move out or stay away. The greedy homeowners are delusional and think they can sell for a big profit but they don't even realize their city is widely considered a dump where people generally don't want to go unless really desperate.

Nobody moves out of any city because of a ranking drop in some weird list.

I bet Steve the addict has never left his trailer in Arkansas ever.

Free_the_thigh wrote:

I was there a year before the pandemic, it was fantastic.

I find it hard to believe it has declined to the extend people on the internet want you to think.

moved away from PDX one week before COVID hit. Was there for a little over half a year.

What an absolute dump of a city. There are needles EVERYWHERE on the main waterfront. Downtown has trash and homeless everywhere. The interstates/highways are LITTERED. Every public bathroom is heinous.

Sure there are some nice parts - Sellwood park is super nice, loved the marquam trails/council crest, Terwilliger blvd is a nice road to run. But damn, overall just dumpy.

These hipsters are your children and brothers and sisters. Northwestern hipsters confused me because they aren't quite right. Erudite but not educated. On the fringe but not genuinely open minded. Stylish but with lumberjack clothing. Repurposing the mundane as if it were new, like beer.

The answer is that these hipsters fled run down loathsome rural towns filled with people at the lowest level of existence. They fled to the big Pacific Northwestestn cities but had no money, education, and couldn't let go of all their upbringing. As if there were a sudden migration of Amish young to a nearby big city. And grunge was born.

Oh yeah

Please. Still a much much more desirable place to live than Anywhere in the South. Please.