Yes, I'm sure some internet jerkoffs on a message board know better than the CDC. Maybe Fauci can save us and recommend we wear 3 masks when outdoors!
Yes, I'm sure some internet jerkoffs on a message board know better than the CDC. Maybe Fauci can save us and recommend we wear 3 masks when outdoors!
wazzu1452 wrote:
"Wearing a mask when it is not medically necessary is grotesque and unhuman, an attack on society itself. It feeds paranoia and fear. You are treating air like it is toxic and other humans like they are nothing but vessels of disease. It is disgraceful, arrogant, and offensive."
~ Matt Walsh, Daily Wire
What a weenie.
Common Cents wrote:
It’s very obvious that those of us who are vaccinated will continue to mask up while the selfish and unvaccinated will go maskless and spread Covid allowing it to mutate and scales will spike again. Huge mistake by the CDC!!
Why would a vaccinated person continue to mask up? The science says it's not needed, follow the science.
The CDC of course realizes that those who are not vaccinated will toss their masks. It will not be a problem. Texas proves this. They did not go into this decision blind and dumb.
Walt Kowalski wrote:
wazzu1452 wrote:
"Wearing a mask when it is not medically necessary is grotesque and unhuman, an attack on society itself. It feeds paranoia and fear. You are treating air like it is toxic and other humans like they are nothing but vessels of disease. It is disgraceful, arrogant, and offensive."
~ Matt Walsh, Daily Wire
What a weenie.
Talking about myself, of course.
Meanwhile in Red States....
The Metro Nashville Public Health Department is no longer enforcing the mask mandate.
typical wrote:
Common Cents wrote:
It’s very obvious that those of us who are vaccinated will continue to mask up while the selfish and unvaccinated will go maskless and spread Covid allowing it to mutate and scales will spike again. Huge mistake by the CDC!!
Why would a vaccinated person continue to mask up? The science says it's not needed, follow the science.
The new CDC science says the no mask guidance does NOT apply to the unvaccinated. Follow the science anti-vaxxers! Continue wearing a mask. Your "body." Your "choice." Your "germs."
WAIT Kowalski wrote:
WALT Kowalski wrote:
What a weenie.
Talking about myself, of course.
Sure thing, WAIT. Good for you to admit what WALT pointed out about weenies like you.
high school xc coach wrote:
The CDC of course realizes that those who are not vaccinated will toss their masks. It will not be a problem. Texas proves this. They did not go into this decision blind and dumb.
Provide a link to were Texas proves anything. The only thing they have prove is that their COVID data has been baked to appease faithful followers of the orange one.
wazzu1452 wrote:
Meanwhile in Red States....
The Metro Nashville Public Health Department is no longer enforcing the mask mandate.
Red States = India v2.
As of May 17,2021 10:15 AM EDT, the following is on the CDC vaccine FAQ page:
Q: "How long does protection from a COVID-19 vaccine last ?"
A: "We don’t know how long protection lasts for those who are vaccinated."
DanM wrote:
As of May 17,2021 10:15 AM EDT, the following is on the CDC vaccine FAQ page:
Q: "How long does protection from a COVID-19 vaccine last ?"
A: "We don’t know how long protection lasts for those who are vaccinated."
The CDC doesn't know how long COVID-19 vaccine protection lasts because it hasn't been that long since it's been administered.
So we know it lasts somewhere between the start of trials (about a year) and forever.
Uncertainty doesn't give you permission to make up nonsense.
CDC had a very solid study showing that the vaccines were working and breakthrough infections were extraordinarily rare. The science behind no masks for the vaccinated is very solid.
But on the political/public health side, the CDC bungled the issue pretty badly. Politically, it was a typical centrist Dem maneuver where they are always trying to coopt right wing views by meeting them half way instead of standing strong on left principals and vigorously defending them.
There are numerous examples of what is know as exponential decline in COVID cases. It has come about due to a combination of rapid and widespread vaccination plus holding on to containment measures until certain benchmarks are met. One of the most effective containment measures is vaccine passports.
The CDC thought that they could get a big uptick in vaccinations from hold outs by telling everyone that they could go without a mask once they are vaccinated. But many states have already rescinded mask mandates. So, it really didn't do anything except make people in states that still have mask mandates think that they are no longer necessary.
CDC should have issued guidance with benchmarks for rescinding mask mandates. That would have given states that are doing the right thing backing to keep measures in place and motivated people to get vaccinated with the reward of rescinding mask mandates once benchmarks are reached.
Masks don't work.
Precious Roy wrote:
One of the most effective containment measures is vaccine passports.
Oh really?
Aren't you fearmongers reminding us all the time that vaccinated people can also transmit the virus?
Common Cents wrote:
It’s very obvious that those of us who are vaccinated will continue to mask up while the selfish and unvaccinated will go maskless and spread Covid allowing it to mutate and scales will spike again. Huge mistake by the CDC!!
The situation you describe will never change, i.e., there will always be unvaccinated people who will not wear masks. Are you proposing that mask mandates never go away? If not, when do you think it would be okay to do away with them?
bigmig19 wrote:
Nearly half the country wrote:
Nearly half the country has pretty much been 'mask optional' most of the past year. And yet their numbers weren't drastically different. Half the country has been vaccinated now, rolling out to high schoolers now which will increase it even more.
If numbers get way out of control in a month from now it's because the vaccines don't work. But they do work, so they will not get way out of control.
In over a year only 10% of Americans got covid. If 50% of people get vaccinated, and the vaccinations are 95% effective then this eliminates nearly half the people. So in order to reach the numbers we did in the past year the non-vaccinated people would need to be exposed to covid at twice the amount they did last year. This group is largely who was already exposed to it the most anyway, so it's doubtful it will get any worse for them.
Summary, it will not be a complete disaster. I thought you covid-scared people followed science? The science says the vaccines work, and most adults are vaccinated, so those people don't need them.
Nice try. Its not the hard science its the psychology. We all agree with the science. Problem is, every single anti masker conspiracy theorist like you will now use this to not wear a mask and contribute to variants and preventable deaths because you know we dont know who has had the vaccine. No anti masker will wear a scarlet letter on their face now because of either; 1) you never wanted to wear one anyway due to your "freedoms" and anti society beliefs, or 2) you will be embarrassed to announce you are part of the problem by not getting a vaccine as evidenced by the mask you are supposed to still be wearing.
CDC made this rec in a vacuum. Its a green light to all the problem people.
How is your day as a paranoid schizophrenic going around seeing "problem people" everywhere. Do you have a nice tinfoil hat that matches your pretty designer mask?
Are people stupid? Follow the science. Follow what the CDC recommends. This isn’t a matter of personal opinion and virtue signaling OP.
The CDC director said they'd trust people to do the right thing, and only be maskless at maskless businesses if they were vaccinated.
People do the right thing.
In a world where people hoarded TP for a lung virus, and hoarded gas on the East Coast creating a shortage when there wasn't one, and cut in line for testing, and cut in line for shots, dressed up as the elderly, and don't know how to merge.
We're going to flounder around like the complete idiots we are for at least a month now.