8 fully vaccinated NY Yankees players have covid (+14 days post vaccine)

just race wrote:

If 8 tested positive and only one has any symptoms that means the vaccine is actually working right. Testing positive just means they found some virus in their spit, not even necessarily viable virus, not that they are sick. Really this is just an example of the hazards of over-testing

7 of 8 no symptoms is the usual ratio pre vaccines. A virus so scary you have to take a test to know you have it

While your number of deaths looks to be way off, and your mechanism explanation is wrong, there does appear to be significant morbidity and mortality associated with that vaccine. Fortunately, with the virus eradicated in India, they can back off the vaccinations without a likely spike in infections.

Haha, this is great. We now get to watch the covid believers try to perform some pretty impressive mental gymnastics to explain why this is happening within the scope of what they believe!

One thing that I've thought through this vaccination campaign. If the vaccines are only meant to reduce symptoms and asymptomatic spread is the driver of the pandemic, then are these vaccines not creating asymptotic spreaders? How does that stop the pandemic?

Queue more mental contortions to explain this one....

Explain this to me wrote:

Haha, this is great. We now get to watch the covid believers try to perform some pretty impressive mental gymnastics to explain why this is happening within the scope of what they believe!

One thing that I've thought through this vaccination campaign. If the vaccines are only meant to reduce symptoms and asymptomatic spread is the driver of the pandemic, then are these vaccines not creating asymptotic spreaders? How does that stop the pandemic?

Queue more mental contortions to explain this one....

My post which you replied to was not about a Covid vaccine or an mRNA vaccine.

The mRNA vaccines do a very good job of preventing all forms of spread. The J&J vaccine certainly looks less effective in that regard.

By preventing asymptomatic spread I mean that any exposure to the virus becomes much much less likely to produce a viral load that is detectable by PCR testing. 90% less likely. A high viral load is what makes someone likely to transmit the disease.

Did they die? Are they okay? I've been really concerned about the poor baseball players. I do hope none of them were in a nursing home or ill from other causes.

Polio probably not going to be eradicated, due to lack of detection and lack of motivation. The 70% asymptomatic thing plus the low incidence of bad outcome. Smallpox has essentially no asymptomatic and 30% mortality, and high incidence of lifetime scarring for survivors.

What do you mean "vaccinated" ? Successful vaccination means passing from the susceptible state to the immune state. Directly transmitted infectious disease: control by vaccination Anderson and May Science (New Series) Vol 215, Feb 26, 1982, 1053-1060. Read on page 1057, column 1, paragraph beginning "Susceptibles are lost by natural mortality, by vaccination..." The whole paper is really worth a read.

This just in: a 9th Yankee staffer is now positive.

Im ok with being discredited, so feel free. The supreme liberal media overlords are reporting it, so rest assured it is true.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Harambe wrote:

This is what the deniers where whining about with PCR testing for months, except it actually applies now

You believe things when it suits you and deny them when it doesn't. You're a mindless clown.

Nobody likes you.

Everything I posted was correct.

The simplest way to look at is this:

What is the peak viral load in the average non-vaccinated case versus a vaccinated case?

That should inform usefulness of a PCR test.

The 'casedemic' BS made sense IF most cases didn't progress to a high viral load stage where symptoms and spreading were more likely. A vast majority of cases did! Therefore, tests were very useful! We weren't catching a huge amount of people of no risk to themselves or others are the PCR-weirdos liked to claim.

With vaccines, this appears to be true, though. A denier's clock is right once a year!

Explain this to me wrote:

Haha, this is great. We now get to watch the covid believers try to perform some pretty impressive mental gymnastics to explain why this is happening within the scope of what they believe!

One thing that I've thought through this vaccination campaign. If the vaccines are only meant to reduce symptoms and asymptomatic spread is the driver of the pandemic, then are these vaccines not creating asymptotic spreaders? How does that stop the pandemic?

Queue more mental contortions to explain this one....

The intention of the vaccines was to reduce symptoms and severity of the virus.

The hopeful and now proving-to-be-true outcome (Isreal, etc) is that there's a massive reduction in spread, period.

How is that hard to read and comprehend, from any source?

And Bad Wiggins: stop talking to yourself in the mirror. I know you low functioning covid deniers like to poke at Harambe for perceived misses or slip ups, but I guarantee you he's agreed with and respected 10:1 compared to you on this board. I've seen your shyte posts for the last decade and can't recall anyone agreeing or backing you in any capacity. Covid denier rabble doesn't count.

I know I missed a lot of posts but I recall readingthat most of the people were asymptomatic. All but 1 I believe. MLB is just randomly testing people so it doesn't suprise me that someone vaccinated could test positive but be fine. We should not be worried about asymptomatic spread amongst vaccinate people, that is why you get the vaccine. I'm sure if you were doing a scatter shot test of the population you'd find a lot more positives amongst asymptomatic people.