It's no mystery to me why Divorce is the end result of most Marriages in the U.S.

Fwiw, only about 33% of first marriages end in divorce. The overall divorce rate appears to be about 50% because it's driven higher by the divorce rate in second (about 67%) and third marriages (about 75%).

The real mystery is how you haven’t managed to choke to death on your own vomit ?

Greg wrote:

Many men just want a woman who looks good, will cook for them and raise kids if they have them.

As a man, I can cook for myself without a woman. I just would prefer a woman to be able to cook because I have other things to do.

I just want a partner who supports me.

Greg, you told us many times that you have nothing to do. You have enough time to cook.

It's a good thing you have it all figured out. But it doesn't sound like divorce is something you will need to worry about anyway.

This is the saddest LRC thread ever. The immaturity and denial on display are simply staggering.

This is why you need to find a nice Ukranian woman to be your wife, jamin.

It's no mystery to me why you would likely never find someone to marry.

Portland Hobby Jogger wrote:

This is the saddest LRC thread ever. The immaturity and denial on display are simply staggering.

What you talking about? Do you live in the real world or the kool-aid driven fantasy world? I've working out in gyms since 1982 right after college when I went into bodybuilding/powerlifting. Been doing this ever since with some hobby jogging on the side. There's so much infidelity with marriages it's not even funny. Go join a large popular gym and really get into lifting in the dungeon and see for yourself. It's total drama - you're not living in the real world. Lol.

No marriage has two people doing all of the same things. Two people with full time jobs and decent incomes is not the same thing as two people doing the same job. My wife is amazing and is currently finishing her Ph.D. in her mid 40s. We each do what needs to be done without worrying whose job it is.

We've been married for 16 years and are going strong. How long have you been married?

Infidelity is like many other things. Those who are unfaithful are more visible than those who are faithful in a marriage. I'm sure it's not nearly as common as you think.

Here's my take wrote:

Portland Hobby Jogger wrote:

This is the saddest LRC thread ever. The immaturity and denial on display are simply staggering.

What you talking about? Do you live in the real world or the kool-aid driven fantasy world? I've working out in gyms since 1982 right after college when I went into bodybuilding/powerlifting. Been doing this ever since with some hobby jogging on the side. There's so much infidelity with marriages it's not even funny. Go join a large popular gym and really get into lifting in the dungeon and see for yourself. It's total drama - you're not living in the real world. Lol.

jamin wrote:

If you have a team then each member needs to bring something unique to the table. Two people doing the same job -> 1 gets laid off.

Not true at all. If you marry the right person, it works out more often than it doesn't.

You'll never be married, that I'm sure of as you're picky in areas that you have no right to be picky in---think about it. If you prove me wrong, then you have the right to talk about marriages and why they do or don't last.

You read my post as you read everything.

P.s. Why don't you try going on a date first before trying to figure out why marriages do or don't last? When is the last time you actually asked someone out on a date?

You kids these days?

ssjimbo wrote:

Infidelity is like many other things. Those who are unfaithful are more visible than those who are faithful in a marriage. I'm sure it's not nearly as common as you think.

Here's my take wrote:

What you talking about? Do you live in the real world or the kool-aid driven fantasy world? I've working out in gyms since 1982 right after college when I went into bodybuilding/powerlifting. Been doing this ever since with some hobby jogging on the side. There's so much infidelity with marriages it's not even funny. Go join a large popular gym and really get into lifting in the dungeon and see for yourself. It's total drama - you're not living in the real world. Lol.

What's sad about this thread is the mindset of certain aging single men and their assumptions about marriage based on a complete lack of relationship experience. It also doesn't help that their personalities are defined by a niche sport that few truly understand and interacting primarily online with other odd birds in the same boat.

What is pathetic is the attitude that women need to be submissive, servile, and that they cannot have careers or, God forbid, be more successful than their husbands. That they have to be perfect little Stepford dolls or else the man has carte blanche to dispose of them as he sees fit. Above all, that they must dedicate their lives to "take care" of the hard working man. The OP and others never talk of partnership, trust, complimentary strengths, shared goals, or the like. They see women as nothing more than Real Dolls that can talk and cook. Then they lament why they do not have relationships when their attitudes are so off putting. It can't be their unrealistic expectations. It must be that women have become uppity cheaters that are too smart for their own good!

Of course, marriages fail. Infidelity, lack of communication, people growing apart - all tales as old as human civilization itself. I do live in the real world but, maturity, realism, adaptation, and self-control has kept my 23 year marriage alive and vital.

Here's my take wrote:

Portland Hobby Jogger wrote:

This is the saddest LRC thread ever. The immaturity and denial on display are simply staggering.

What you talking about? Do you live in the real world or the kool-aid driven fantasy world? I've working out in gyms since 1982 right after college when I went into bodybuilding/powerlifting. Been doing this ever since with some hobby jogging on the side. There's so much infidelity with marriages it's not even funny. Go join a large popular gym and really get into lifting in the dungeon and see for yourself. It's total drama - you're not living in the real world. Lol.

Marriage commentary from a guy who uses the phrase "lifting in the dungeon"?

I've been married a little over 20 years and infidelity is out there but you don't have to get in the pool and can stay far from it and "the dungeon". At least a couple times a year a married woman will give some indication of interest but I choose not to pursue any of it, likely I am as ignorant of the world of infidelity as Dungeon Lift Bros are of fidelity.

Ignoring the rest of this, the premise makes no sense. Most teams I've worked on had multiple people doing the same job. Any complex project is going to work like that unless you're at a startup.

docLorna wrote:

jamin wrote:

If you have a team then each member needs to bring something unique to the table. Two people doing the same job -> 1 gets laid off.

Sooooo, if both partners bring to the table their unique ambition towards goals and future it’s a no go?

If both partners bring to the table their unique appreciation for great sex, it’s a no go?

What do you mean by two people doing the same job -> one gets a lay off?

If your examples are of "unique ambition" and "unique appreciation", how does that counter Jamin's postulate of "the same job"? The "same job" doesn't necessarily mean "get in the kitchen and bake me some pie", but the responders seem to mostly be projecting that onto to his post.

So, lets all ask: Jamin, what do you mean by "the same job" and how does it relate to divorce? Two dudes? Two chicks? Emotional, mental incompatibility? Societal roles? Familial, financial roles?

A lot of guys can’t keep women happy. Of course the divorce rate is high.

jamin wrote:

If you have a team then each member needs to bring something unique to the table. Two people doing the same job -> 1 gets laid off.

A lot of people get bored or drift apart over time and divorce is more socially acceptable than in the past. It's not rocket science.

Why would we take relationship advice from you.