Hobbs Kessler should decommit from NAU

I am counting on it. 3:51 outdoor and runs in the trials and goes pro.

Calvin and Hobbs wrote:

I am counting on it. 3:51 outdoor and runs in the trials and goes pro.

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NAU is perfect for a guy with immmense speed and great mechanics. I’m sure Warhurst is fine with his decision.

Heartless wrote:

NAU is perfect for a guy with immmense speed and great mechanics. I’m sure Warhurst is fine with his decision.

I’m sure Brazier would thrive there!!

His mile from Sunday converts to a 3:40.05. If he runs sub 3:40 outdoors, he should turn pro and work with Nick Willis and Ron.

Heartless wrote:

NAU is perfect for a guy with immmense speed and great mechanics. I’m sure Warhurst is fine with his decision.

I disagree!

Schools competing for XC titles 'can be' death of a pure middle distance runner. Unfortunately a kid that can run a sub-4 mile is capable of contributing to a top ranked XC team right away, but because you can, does not mean you should. With that said, some middle distance runners benefit from high mileage programs, but most don't. If I was an NCAA coach with a stud 800/mile type kid, his freshman year, I would have him do some training with the XC team, perhaps some extra hill sprints, drills but no meets. Sophomore year, train with the XC team, run some meets, but no championships or 10Ks. Junior year, run a full XC season. This is a difficult thing for a coach to do becasue this kid is probably a XC low stick the day he shows up on campus.

The last NCAA mile champ was from NAU.

The perfect fit is obviously Oregon. One of if not the best mid-distance coach in the world with an elite training group. What more can you ask?

Cocoa wrote:

He is a speed based kid, running 30-50mpw rn. Warhurst is heavy on hills and intervals. This is the complete opposite approach from Smith and NAU (not saying Smith is a bad coach, he is excellent for aerobic monsters). I worry he will go there and crumble under that mileage and lack of intensity.

If he PR’s again this indoor or outdoor seasons and runs in the 3:55-3:56 range, I’d rather see him turn pro and continue to work with Willis and Warhurst. Take classes and get your degree, but take control of your own running!!

I don’t know about crumbling, but, yeah, why change what’s working? I’m sure he can start doing a long run (which most pure 800/1500 types hate) and some doubles to build his aerobic capacity without sapping his speed. The problem is when kids get fast on low volume and then think low volume is the best and only way to do it. This kid would probably thrive on 70-80 mpw.

You are not an NCAA coach but you think you know more than a coach who has multiple national titles? Do you hear yourself?

duami wrote:

The perfect fit is obviously Oregon. One of if not the best mid-distance coach in the world with an elite training group. What more can you ask?

let Coach Alberto take him to the top

I could see a guy like him thriving at Virginia Tech, possibly Iowa State.

But if he wants to become alpha, the only place is Ole Miss.

I think that he just had a lucky race. Maybe he breaks 4 again, but it's going to be a year or two before he dips under 3:55. It was just a fluke IMO.

Sesamoiditis wrote:

The last NCAA mile champ was from NAU.

Cool. Your point? Do you think all milers train the same? Beamish trains like an aerobic beast with NAU. It works for him. Smith is a great coach for those types of guys. Why is it so difficult for people to understand that different people can run the same event but need different types of training? Jakob Ingerbrigsten runs near 100mi / week with a ton of threshold training. Lagat ran like 60mpw with a ton of speed and they both have run under 3:30 for 1500.

mike smith knows more than anyone here, he’ll be fine if he does attend NAU. he’s in very good hands, although i agree oregon might suit his strengths better smith is a genius.

I think he will go pro. But I agree with you. He is one of a handful of the best coaches in the NCAA but a bunch of former 14:59 D3 posters here think they know more.

Superspikes wrote:

mike smith knows more than anyone here, he’ll be fine if he does attend NAU. he’s in very good hands, although i agree oregon might suit his strengths better smith is a genius.

Would Warhurst have any input at Michigan still, because, why wouldn’t the kid just go there? A much better education and degree than NAU. Or, go pro but still attend Michigan.

But, I agree. The kid will probably be fine at either NAU or Oregon. It’s just that Michigan is a much better school.

SDSU Aztecs have no endurance wrote:

I think he will go pro. But I agree with you. He is one of a handful of the best coaches in the NCAA but a bunch of former 14:59 D3 posters here think they know more.

You say that as if running ability and coaching ability have a relationship with one another. Mark Wetmore, Jack Daniels, Tinman, John Kellogg, Frank Gagliano etc etc etc all mediocre runners or non-runners who became world class coaches. Nobody is saying Smith is a bad coach, just that certain skillsets suit different coaches better. Coaches are normal people, they aren’t all knowing Gods who cannot be questioned.

Lagat ran xc at Washington State. The current Olympic gold medalist ran xc at Oregon. Nick Willis ran xc at Michigan.

So did Mo 3:28 Farah

So did 3:33 Kipchoge

So did 3:32 Bekele