Alberto Salazar / Galen Rupp 26:44 and 3:50 Mile Training

I should also add that Salazar has also on record talked about not mixing workouts the way you now see being advocated by folks like Tinman and so I am also curious how much merit there is to that compared with what seems to be the new norm of say mixing threshold and speed into one session.

politically Incorrect wrote:

I should also add that Salazar has also on record talked about not mixing workouts the way you now see being advocated by folks like Tinman and so I am also curious how much merit there is to that compared with what seems to be the new norm of say mixing threshold and speed into one session.

He got that from Bowerman i.e. Oregon training that he trained under. TBH, probably not much different from the Bowerman system used back in the 60s/70s just with some modern tweaks on certain stuff.

Exogenous testosterone, early and often.

politically Incorrect wrote:

I should also add that Salazar has also on record talked about not mixing workouts the way you now see being advocated by folks like Tinman and so I am also curious how much merit there is to that compared with what seems to be the new norm of say mixing threshold and speed into one session.

That`s an interesting comment . I`m with Salazar in that one should not mixing workouts.

When training for pure sprint speed it`s important to just do a workout that emphasize that, when training for maxVO2 speed only emphasize on that, when training for LT improvement only emphasize on that , and when developing aerobic power ( LSD) only do that ( only exception when training for half/ marathon fast finish in the specific long run with LT paced fast parts in it).

The only time when all components needed are mixed together is in the race.

If Rupp had run for the Bowerman TC,your thread title would be titled "Jerry Schumacher/Galen Rupp 26:44 and 3:50 mile training"

Rupp is the the GOAT U.S. distance runner because of his talent and not because he was coached by Salazar. Unless you believe PEDs were involved, there are other programs where he would have accomplished the same things.

Unless you think Rupp would've run 26:44/3:50 under Tinman, or even just on his own, then you don't really think it has nothing to do with Salazar. There may be other programs where he MIGHT have accomplished the same things, or even better things, but there's no way for us to know for sure.

2 the gills!!

From what I’ve heard there’s usually 2-3 sessions a week.

Short intervals, long intervals, and occasionally the third workout will be longer intervals.

Seems to me like they work a lot on pace, starting workouts at the base phase at around threshold, and as the season progresses they get faster and faster.

I wouldn’t say they do “low volume” workouts. Some interview I heard Salazar speak at years ago he said some sessions that Mo and Rupp did in peak shape (this was around the 2011 racing season I think) was 20x400 in 60 seconds with a minute rest. Another was 15x200 in 25 with a minute rest.

He often spoke about doing the same workouts every season, and basically just tweaking things that he thought could be improved. This way when they do the same workout season after season they know what their fitness means, and if they get a PR in their workout they know they’re in shape.

It’s hard to say specifically what workouts he would do. But a lot of the top coaches do the same thing in different ways. If I had to guess what a workout would look like...

Monday- double with strides

Tuesday-shorter speed workout

Wednesday- medium long run

Thursday-double

Friday-longer strength work/tempo

Saturday-single

Sunday- long run

A lot of his success has to do with the environment. You have extremely talented athletes who rarely get injured, put them in the same group so they can push each other, give them all the resources Nike can provide for them, and a coach who tries to get everyone edge possible.

I’m not saying Salazar isn’t a good coach, but I don’t think he does things that differently than others. Maybe it’s more intensity focused, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s very similar to the outline above

They double M-S. A medium long run is an American thing. All good runners run medium long runs everyday

This is 100% incorrect. You don’t know what the F you’re talking about.

evan Hager had more natural talent than Rupp and he fizzled out under Jerry Shady Schumacher.

95% of runners who trained under Salazar experienced massive improvements.

as much of a bad wrap as Salazar gets, he played an extremely important role in Rupps running success as well as all other runners who trained with Salazar’s coaching.

If you examine any top 1% performer in any field, you will see an amazing coach or mentor behind them. Whether it’s business or athletics, no one gets to that level - the top 1 in a country for example - without a coach or mentor who were themselves also great.