Ihatejoe wrote:
I really am disappointed by the moderation on this thread. The liberals are calling the patriots stupid, idiots and morons and it stands. Attack the politicians, but these direct insults at the intelligence of those they don't agree with is really wrong. You are sowing the seeds of an election reversal in 2022 and 2024. Delete the insulting posts!
Says the guy with "hate" in his name (and about a pretty damn vanilla, run-of-the-mill politician). Persuasive.
Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9zkG4IWYAIe5ng?format=jpg&name=largenonequals wrote:
No response is possible, because it's nonsensical to somehow blame Trump's lying on the media. Yet you still do. Impressive.
Wow, that is SO cute. And made by a retired Trumper who also puts stickers on his "Harley Helmet."
Seriously, it's a 2 party country. Biden happens to be the leader of one of them. And Trump is the leader of the other. Keep pretending that discussion of the oh-so-relevant Trump implies some tacit acknowledgement that Biden is somehow indefensible. Yeah, right.
agip wrote:
Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
The AZ audit final report will be released on Friday. It will show significant Biden voter fraud- more than enough votes to flip the state. As more states such as PA & GA complete their audits, I expect more of the same- the election was stolen and Trump won.
The audit found 17,000 duplicate ballots- meaning 2-4 photo copies of the same voter . That ALONE kills Biden's 10,457 margin in Arizona.
nonequals wrote:
Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9zkG4IWYAIe5ng?format=jpg&name=largeWow, that is SO cute. And made by a retired Trumper who also puts stickers on his "Harley Helmet."
Seriously, it's a 2 party country. Biden happens to be the leader of one of them. And Trump is the leader of the other. Keep pretending that discussion of the oh-so-relevant Trump implies some tacit acknowledgement that Biden is somehow indefensible. Yeah, right.
President Crises continues to sink in the polls.
https://bmcdailynewscomwp.com/2021/09/27/biden-losing-americas-trust-polls-show-2/Fat hurts wrote:
Just back to remind you that the "two bill" infrastructure package is the most important legislation of our lifetime.
I get it that nobody here really cares. That's why humanity has a good chance of dying out by the end of the century.
Even this bill doesn't really hit the mark. It doesn't really do what needs to be done. But it gives us a tiny chance.
I think you all know I'm right. But you don't want to look. You don't want to think about it. You don't have the courage.
To the extent that you're talking, at least in part, about climate control measures, I think that the existence of Trumpism suggests a nearly impossible task for those hopeful of convincing a significant fraction of Americans to be concerned about climate change. Before Trumpism, it was already an uphill battle. Even, arguably, amongst fairly well-educated and fairly decent Americans. Even if they accept that it's happening, to what degree? And is it a big enough worry to spend billions or trillions to mitigate? Again, always an uphill battle.
Trumpism is, I think, a dagger to the heart of any hope. If THAT guy can convince roughly half of voting Americans that a bald-faced lie isn't a lie - and that stealing elections is OK - WHAT chance does anyone have of convincing those sorts of people about climate change? Especially when the argument is so clearly tied to the liberals they love to hate? Geez, it's got to be damn near zero.
Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
agip wrote:
The audit found 17,000 duplicate ballots- meaning 2-4 photo copies of the same voter . That ALONE kills Biden's 10,457 margin in Arizona.
LOLz, so when is AZ moving to "decertify"? {chuckles}
nonequals wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Just back to remind you that the "two bill" infrastructure package is the most important legislation of our lifetime.
I get it that nobody here really cares. That's why humanity has a good chance of dying out by the end of the century.
Even this bill doesn't really hit the mark. It doesn't really do what needs to be done. But it gives us a tiny chance.
I think you all know I'm right. But you don't want to look. You don't want to think about it. You don't have the courage.
To the extent that you're talking, at least in part, about climate control measures, I think that the existence of Trumpism suggests a nearly impossible task for those hopeful of convincing a significant fraction of Americans to be concerned about climate change. Before Trumpism, it was already an uphill battle. Even, arguably, amongst fairly well-educated and fairly decent Americans. Even if they accept that it's happening, to what degree? And is it a big enough worry to spend billions or trillions to mitigate? Again, always an uphill battle.
Trumpism is, I think, a dagger to the heart of any hope. If THAT guy can convince roughly half of voting Americans that a bald-faced lie isn't a lie - and that stealing elections is OK - WHAT chance does anyone have of convincing those sorts of people about climate change? Especially when the argument is so clearly tied to the liberals they love to hate? Geez, it's got to be damn near zero.
Yep - and even if trump disappears the GQP now knows the way. They can produce any despicable and criminal nominee that vows to own the libs and come out with reasonable assurance that he/she can go very far in right wing politics and fund raising.
Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
agip wrote:
The audit found 17,000 duplicate ballots- meaning 2-4 photo copies of the same voter . That ALONE kills Biden's 10,457 margin in Arizona.
you should be utterly ashamed of yourself for your willful ignorance.
unless you are a troll, then you are one of the best.
"They say the border's closed. Hunter's emails were Russian disinformation. We won't leave any Americans behind in Afghanistan. Reins are whips. Trillions of dollars equals zero dollars.
It's good to know "grown-ups" are in charge now and leading the fight against misinformation."
This is what happens when you put Democrats in charge. And only one city official is calling for more police. Just a travesty.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/philadelphia-surpasses-400-homicides-more-police
Sally Vixxxxxxxxens wrote:
This is what happens when you put Democrats in charge. And only one city official is calling for more police. Just a travesty.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/philadelphia-surpasses-400-homicides-more-police
I'm sure you'll agree that Democrats have led the big cities since 1990, right?
And I'm sure you'll agree that crime has fallen tremendously since then.
Therefore I'm sure you'll agree that Dem leadership of cities has lowered crime rates.
Done. That was easy.
agip wrote:
Sally Vixxxxxxxxens wrote:
This is what happens when you put Democrats in charge. And only one city official is calling for more police. Just a travesty.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/philadelphia-surpasses-400-homicides-more-policeI'm sure you'll agree that Democrats have led the big cities since 1990, right?
And I'm sure you'll agree that crime has fallen tremendously since then.
Therefore I'm sure you'll agree that Dem leadership of cities has lowered crime rates.
Done. That was easy.
You are correct to say that crime has fallen quite a bit since 1990. The reason(s) are hard to pinpoint ... aging population, increased incarceration, booming economy, decline in use of hard drugs, and many other factors might have contributed to the steep decline in crime. Maybe even covering up crime - like now many liberal cities don't even arrest lawbreakers for certain crimes.
Sally Vixxxxxxxxens wrote:
This is what happens when you put Democrats in charge. And only one city official is calling for more police. Just a travesty.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/philadelphia-surpasses-400-homicides-more-police
Even if there is no police, there should not be Murders, Murders used to be so rare, now it is News if there is no murders for a Day, We as Americans should stop killing each other, if you have a dispute with someone settle it with your fists, like We as Americans used to do, many times the 2 people fighting would be friends in a few days or a few weeks, with murder, one is dead the other is in jail, lot of family and friends grieving pretty stupid, I think Biden should Mandate putting the Ten Commandments back in schools and be added to all workplaces and Children should be taught early Thou Shalt not kill and based on all the looting seen last year Americans should be taught Thou Shalt not Steal, John Jay said in the Federalist Papers, The Constitution ONLY WORKS for a Religious and Moral People, With all the Murders, stealing, looting etc. Are we still a Religious and Moral People????? Japan Now has Less Crime than The USA, This should be a wake up call to All Americans, We Need to do Better, Lets stop killing each other and we don't have to steal either.
Trumpers would rather die than be confused with a Democrat or admit they were wrong.
This is the damage trump has done.
Made a political party unfit to govern.
If they can’t figure this out, they can’t figure out actual complications things.
https://twitter.com/dleonhardt/status/1442454472144293898?s=21
Sally Vixxxxxxxxens wrote:
agip wrote:
I'm sure you'll agree that Democrats have led the big cities since 1990, right?
And I'm sure you'll agree that crime has fallen tremendously since then.
Therefore I'm sure you'll agree that Dem leadership of cities has lowered crime rates.
Done. That was easy.
You are correct to say that crime has fallen quite a bit since 1990. The reason(s) are hard to pinpoint ... aging population, increased incarceration, booming economy, decline in use of hard drugs, and many other factors might have contributed to the steep decline in crime. Maybe even covering up crime - like now many liberal cities don't even arrest lawbreakers for certain crimes.
ok fair enough
would you take the step to agree that by not getting vaxxed,
white christian Republican Trumpists kill every day many more people than urban african american Democrats kill?
remember that c. 1500 people per day are dying unneccesarily because of people not getting vaxxed.
There will be, of course, no consequences for Republican crimes.
Here's an empty threat not even I am willing to get excited about.
The Republicans will defy the subpoenas and suffer no consequences for doing so.
agip wrote:
Sally Vixxxxxxxxens wrote:
You are correct to say that crime has fallen quite a bit since 1990. The reason(s) are hard to pinpoint ... aging population, increased incarceration, booming economy, decline in use of hard drugs, and many other factors might have contributed to the steep decline in crime. Maybe even covering up crime - like now many liberal cities don't even arrest lawbreakers for certain crimes.
ok fair enough
would you take the step to agree that by not getting vaxxed,
white christian Republican Trumpists kill every day many more people than urban african american Democrats kill?
remember that c. 1500 people per day are dying unneccesarily because of people not getting vaxxed.
In Louisiana blacks are vaccinated at 29% rate while whites are vaccinated at close to a 60% rate. Would you agree that blacks need to get their act together and get down to the nearest Wal Mart or Walgreens and get vaccinated?
Sally Vixxxxxxxxens wrote:
agip wrote:
ok fair enough
would you take the step to agree that by not getting vaxxed,
white christian Republican Trumpists kill every day many more people than urban african american Democrats kill?
remember that c. 1500 people per day are dying unneccesarily because of people not getting vaxxed.
In Louisiana blacks are vaccinated at 29% rate while whites are vaccinated at close to a 60% rate. Would you agree that blacks need to get their act together and get down to the nearest Wal Mart or Walgreens and get vaccinated?
I don't believe your numbers specifically (without a link), but I do agree African American vaccine hesitancy is killing people and I wish it would ameliorate.
However
There just aren't that many African Americans compared to Republicans, so African Americans don't move the needle very much compared to Trumpists.
In other words, the raw number of unvaxxed Black people is tiny compared to the number of unvaxxed Trumpists.
agip wrote:
Sally Vixxxxxxxxens wrote:
In Louisiana blacks are vaccinated at 29% rate while whites are vaccinated at close to a 60% rate. Would you agree that blacks need to get their act together and get down to the nearest Wal Mart or Walgreens and get vaccinated?
I don't believe your numbers specifically (without a link), but I do agree African American vaccine hesitancy is killing people and I wish it would ameliorate.
However
There just aren't that many African Americans compared to Republicans, so African Americans don't move the needle very much compared to Trumpists.
In other words, the raw number of unvaxxed Black people is tiny compared to the number of unvaxxed Trumpists.
Agip, you are a pretty smart guy. Ginamator not so sure. But why do you guys keep pushing this "Trumpist" crap? When Trump lost the election he was off my radar. The circles I hang around in - no one cares one whit about Trump. He is a bombastic SOB who served his purpose and none of us conservatives want anything to do with him. But day after day after day you and Ginamator keep harping on "Trumpists." There ARE no Trumpists. He can languish in hell as far as we care. We despise the guy. But you Libs keep bringing him up as a Bogey man. Please stop@
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