If Trump pardons the silk road guy, I'm going to lose it

2600 bro wrote:

As long as Snowden and Assange get a pardon I don't care who else Trump pardon's/is paid to pardon.

rojo wrote:

I just read that he's contemplating it.

I 100% agree with the poster born in 1973 below.

https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=10022681

I think I finally agree with you on something. I would love to see Trump pardon those two. Especially as we see a return to power for the same people who went after Snowden.

Ross ulbricht is a hero. Never committed violence. It was all a smear campaign, he got railroaded to set an example

so bad I can taste it wrote:

I’m calling it now, he is going to attempt to pardon himself.

I don't think so because it could hurt him at the impeachment trial. But I think Bannon will get one.

Whistleblowers and those who hold the powers-that-be accountable are the foundation of democracy and the last defenders of individual rights!

Primo Numero Uno wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

As long as Snowden and Assange get a pardon I don't care who else Trump pardon's/is paid to pardon.

I think I finally agree with you on something. I would love to see Trump pardon those two. Especially as we see a return to power for the same people who went after Snowden.

the media is corrupt wrote:

If it’ll tick those nasty, hypocritical Democrats off, then I hope he does it.

Trump has already pardoned Democrats and will be pardoning more.

He has already pardoned Charles Kushner and Rod Blagojevich.

Now he is going to pardon Sheldon Silver, google it.

It’s cute that you still can’t figure out how easily he manipulated you.

Drain the swamp ?

Jesus H Christ Rojo do you have any sort of morals or backbone! If anyone deserves a pardon it's someone like Ulbricht. If you stand for anything, you should stand with Ross. Snowden's pardon will be a commendation of his service to the government - he was the one who ultimately got everyone to accept that we'll be surveilled, but that's okay because now we know about it.

Ross Ulbricht was entrapped by federal agents. They befriended him and coerced him into 'calling a hit' on someone and then staged a murder. It is even unclear if he was the primary owner of the DreadPirateRoberts handle at this time and statements of this nature were prohibited from the trial (and stricken from the record). Imagine if someone was under arrest for sending dangerous things in the mail, the police discover that multiple people live at this address, wouldn't it make sense for them to investigate all of them instead of just the homeowner? The homeowner has some skin in the game to make sure his house doesn't impounded or something by cops, the people who live there don't.

He was never tried for murder, yet this 'evidence' was introduced in the trial and factored into the judges sentencing decision. It is a gross abuse of power by the police and the government. Several officers involved in the case have already faced charges of misconduct regarding the case - this alone should be reason for a retrial, something that no judge has granted Ross.

At a most basic level, there are rules for how someone should be tried for a crime and these rules were clearly not followed for Ulbricht. Ulbricht's imprisonment is a show of power by the government (headed by Chuck Schumer, ofc), nothing more - they don't have to play by the rules, they don't have to play the game, they don't even have to play a game.

Yes, Ulbricht did break the law and he should face some consequences for that but a life sentence +40 years is ridiculous. Can you at least agree on that? A life sentence +40 years - for someone who was not tried for a violent crime, someone who, to my knowledge, did not sell any drugs himself.

Ulbricht got screwed in the government's bogus War on Drugs. All the murder-for-hire indictments were never even charged, yet somehow the prosecution was able to put the mere allegations into the case, which is how Ulbricht got sentenced to life without parole. Hard to believe and scary that this tactic was allowed by the courts. And, of course, the DEA agents turned out to be crooks too. Is anyone in the DEA not a criminal?

The government offered him a plea of ten years. Does anyone think they do that for someone who actually attempted to murder six people? Or even one person? The answer is no, and that's also why they didn't even charge him with attempted murder.

Ulbricht stupidly didn't take the plea deal. He's a naive person, blinded by the libertarian beliefs that led him to courageously, yet stupidly, start Silk Road to begin with. He doesn't deserve a pardon, but certainly he deserves a commutation to at least the original plea deal of ten years. Right now he's just another life completely ruined by the endless, corrupt and bogus War on Drugs.

Primo Numero Uno wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

As long as Snowden and Assange get a pardon I don't care who else Trump pardon's/is paid to pardon.

I think I finally agree with you on something. I would love to see Trump pardon those two. Especially as we see a return to power for the same people who went after Snowden.

Good luck with that.

He pardoned DEMOCRATS Charles Kushner, Rod Blagojevich and Sheldon Silver instead.

You got played.

Kvothe wrote:

I read that he/his administration had sold pardons. This would be the most corrupt and evil person he'd pardoned, but he's never seemed to have much of a conscience, so I wouldn't be surprised.

No. What the media is reporting is that various Trump hangers-on are selling their claim of access to The Donald.

Presidential pardons are a demonstration of a lack of faith in your justice system and a throwback to the monarchical power to dispense favours. They should be done away with.

* Monarchial

so bad I can taste it wrote:

I’m calling it now, he is going to attempt to pardon himself.

So I can best schedule my day, what time will this take place?

oh. that guy again wrote:

so bad I can taste it wrote:

I’m calling it now, he is going to attempt to pardon himself.

So I can best schedule my day, what time will this take place?

He won't. It won't protect him from a conviction in the Senate and will be more likely to achieve that. Nor will it protect him from legal action in state courts.

Armstronglivs wrote:

oh. that guy again wrote:

So I can best schedule my day, what time will this take place?

He won't. It won't protect him from a conviction in the Senate and will be more likely to achieve that. Nor will it protect him from legal action in state courts.

But the OP said he would. Unless... you think.... he has no clue what he is talking about.

Primo Numero Uno wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

As long as Snowden and Assange get a pardon I don't care who else Trump pardon's/is paid to pardon.

I think I finally agree with you on something. I would love to see Trump pardon those two. Especially as we see a return to power for the same people who went after Snowden.

Agree as well

fhnhgfcxghjn wrote:No.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't WL take hacked email from Russians (wittingly or not) and do a whole drawn out extended Trump campaign ad?

You're wrong.

opopo wrote:

so bad I can taste it wrote:

I’m calling it now, he is going to attempt to pardon himself.

I don't think so because it could hurt him at the impeachment trial. But I think Bannon will get one.

Good call. And Elliot Broidy, too.

Show Pony AF wrote:

Primo Numero Uno wrote:

I think I finally agree with you on something. I would love to see Trump pardon those two. Especially as we see a return to power for the same people who went after Snowden.

Good luck with that.

He pardoned DEMOCRATS Charles Kushner, Rod Blagojevich and Sheldon Silver instead.

You got played.

And Kwame Kilpatrick.

Just Another LRC Idiot wrote:

And Kwame Kilpatrick.

Joe Exotic forgot to suck up to trump it looks like:) Seems like a lot of people are getting pardoned for white collar and political crime. I am sure it is an issue that Trump has strong feelings about.

Biden should pardon Hunter later today for any crimes commited. :)