Dezyherbie wrote:
Ighting Firish wrote:
Yes. There’s a very good chance ND is very overrated yet again and won’t factor. There’s no way the committee can keep the loser of Clem-ND in the final 4.
Unless Clemson wins by about 50, they are both already in oh clueless one.
Still think so? That would be a freaking travesty if so. Clearly over ranked team, as per usual. Kelly is an idiot.
I guess you are watching it. You will get the pleasure of seeing them again in the playoffs.
real ranker wrote:
I guess you are watching it. You will get the pleasure of seeing them again in the playoffs.
The four best teams in college football this year are AL, Clem, OSU, and A&M. That should be obvious to any serious fan.
Is that the team who almost lost to Vandy?
Ighting Firish wrote:
Dezyherbie wrote:
Unless Clemson wins by about 50, they are both already in oh clueless one.
Still think so? That would be a freaking travesty if so. Clearly over ranked team, as per usual. Kelly is an idiot.
Did you not pick up on the "Unless" dilweed?
They won't take ND if Clemson boat-races them. Which is happening right now.
real ranker wrote:
Is that the team who almost lost to Vandy?
Are you referring to the season opening rust buster where they committed 3 fumbles & a penalty that resulted in a safety, a couple weeks before they beat #4 Florida? Is that your measuring stick?
Dezyherbie wrote:
Ighting Firish wrote:
Still think so? That would be a freaking travesty if so. Clearly over ranked team, as per usual. Kelly is an idiot.
Did you not pick up on the "Unless" dilweed?
What if they win by 30? That’s not “almost 50” but enough to drop them out, buttmunch.
While I LOVE to see Notre Dame get smashed, I am a North Carolina fan and need Notre Dame to make the playoff in order for Carolina to make the Orange Bowl. The Orange takes the highest ranked ACC team that is not in the playoff. If ND and Clemson both make it, Carolina goes to the Orange.
trollin' along wrote:
While I LOVE to see Notre Dame get smashed, I am a North Carolina fan and need Notre Dame to make the playoff in order for Carolina to make the Orange Bowl. The Orange takes the highest ranked ACC team that is not in the playoff. If ND and Clemson both make it, Carolina goes to the Orange.
I hear you. I wish UNC had beaten ND earlier this year. That was ND’s second hardest opponent they’ve played this season.
But I can’t see how the committee pitts ND against AL in a playoff, assuming AL wins tonight.
I think the only clear teams for the playoffs are Alabama and Clemson. Alabama requires no explanation. Clemson stumbled once, on the road and without their starting QB. Notre Dame has had a good season, and would be an easy choice if the lost, but were competitive today. However, they have not been competitive. This year I think it would be best if they just went straight to a championship game between those two teams. But they want the television revenue from semis, so they need four teams.
OSU has a great record, but hasn't had much of a schedule (or even had a full schedule). Nevertheless, I guess they get in by default. That leaves the committee looking for a fourth simply because both semis need two teams. The only barely reasonable choices are A&M and Notre Dame. With nine minutes left in the fourth quarter ND is down by 31. The Committee probably should take A&M, which was moderately competitive when they played 'Bama.
SeattleSilver wrote:
I think the only clear teams for the playoffs are Alabama and Clemson. Alabama requires no explanation. Clemson stumbled once, on the road and without their starting QB. Notre Dame has had a good season, and would be an easy choice if the lost, but were competitive today. However, they have not been competitive. This year I think it would be best if they just went straight to a championship game between those two teams. But they want the television revenue from semis, so they need four teams.
OSU has a great record, but hasn't had much of a schedule (or even had a full schedule). Nevertheless, I guess they get in by default. That leaves the committee looking for a fourth simply because both semis need two teams. The only barely reasonable choices are A&M and Notre Dame. With nine minutes left in the fourth quarter ND is down by 31. The Committee probably should take A&M, which was moderately competitive when they played 'Bama.
You know, since the 4th team is pretty much just going to be a sacrificial lamb for Alabama (yeah, this includes Notre Dame), they should just throw one of the undefeated non-power-5 schools in there. They'd lose to Alabama 62-7 and that 'd shut up those conferences for a decade.
SeattleSilver wrote:
I think the only clear teams for the playoffs are Alabama and Clemson. Alabama requires no explanation. Clemson stumbled once, on the road and without their starting QB. Notre Dame has had a good season, and would be an easy choice if the lost, but were competitive today. However, they have not been competitive. This year I think it would be best if they just went straight to a championship game between those two teams. But they want the television revenue from semis, so they need four teams.
OSU has a great record, but hasn't had much of a schedule (or even had a full schedule). Nevertheless, I guess they get in by default. That leaves the committee looking for a fourth simply because both semis need two teams. The only barely reasonable choices are A&M and Notre Dame. With nine minutes left in the fourth quarter ND is down by 31. The Committee probably should take A&M, which was moderately competitive when they played 'Bama.
This is an accurate assessment. The thing is, except at the very top, the SEC is a better conference overall than just about any conference, including the ACC. A&M has played one of the most difficult schedules, and that has to be considered. OSU is in on brand name too. ND? Not so much.
SeattleSilver wrote:
The Committee probably should take A&M, which was moderately competitive when they played 'Bama.
"Moderately competitive" might be a stretch. It was 14-14 at the start of the 2nd quarter and then Alabama went on a 31-3 run and ultimately won 52-24.
So pros can do it but not college?
Maybe he should just skip it then.
A&M will move to either 3 or 4 with ND dropping. It will be Alabama (assuming they don't lose), Clemson, OSU and A&M with the last two possibly swapping spots.
It is only interesting if Alabama lose then it will be between them and Florida for the 4th spot. I think Alabama should stay at 4, and I hate Alabama, but they would still be one of the 4 best teams in college football this year.
That punt on 4th-and-26 with 20-odd seconds left was lame as f***. If they thought that was "keeping it respectable", that ship sailed about an hour ago.
adsfdasfasfsafadfa wrote:
JamesD2 wrote:
If that's too far back for you, SEC teams went 9-2 in bowl or playoff games last year.
What if we have slightly better memoriess and look at the post season records
2016 6-7
2017 5-5
2018 6-6
It is a sub .500 conference when you can't schedule FCS schools:) Clemson and Alabama have been the class of college football for the last 4-5 years. But after that their conferences get hit or miss in a hurry. Big 10 is the same way with Ohio St and everyone else. Those conferences tend to have 1 or 2 other schools that are good when things fall right (LSU gets a QB, Miami isn't suspending a dozen players,...). If you look at most top20 teams schedule at the end of the year and if they have played 4 games against teams ranked at the end of the year, it is a lot.
If you include 2016-18, you have to include 2019, and that makes the SEC 26-20 postseason over the last four years. And that's with a lot of their bowl teams playing other conferences' higher-placed teams, like the 6th best SEC team playing the 4th best Big 10 team. (The PAC 12 benefits from this, as its best team usually gets the 2nd best Big 10 team in the Rose Bowl since the best team is in the playoff, and its 2nd best team will play another conference's 3rd best team in another bowl, etc.) Also, the SEC's bowl record includes some of the conference's dregs, because the 8-game conference schedule and 4 OOC games mean more SEC teams qualify for bowls than Big 10 teams, especially when the Big 10's dregs are losing OOC games to MAC teams.
Let's remove Alabama and Clemson like you say. Not counting Alabama, SEC teams are 3-1 in playoff games, with the loss coming to Alabama. Not counting Clemson, all the other teams are 3-11 in playoff games, with two of the wins coming against each other, and that includes Ohio State and the best teams in the other two conferences. Going farther back, non-Alabama SEC teams have won 7 of the 20 championships in the BCS/CFP era and have a combined record in BCS/CFP games of 9-3. (Alabama has won 5 championships and has a 9-3 record and Clemson has won 2 and has a 6-3 record.) All the other schools combined are 10-25, with nearly all the wins coming against each other. Five different SEC schools have won championships over this period, while no other conference has more than two teams that have won championships.
Dezyherbie wrote:
Ighting Firish wrote:
Yes. There’s a very good chance ND is very overrated yet again and won’t factor. There’s no way the committee can keep the loser of Clem-ND in the final 4.
Unless Clemson wins by about 50, they are both already in oh clueless one.
So, I have to ask again, college football guru, do you still think they are both in?
rojo wrote:
Spacing out 100 families in an 80,000 seat stadium safely shouldn't be too hard.
You're out to lunch, Harvard.