Kids in public housing have nicer houses than people who work

0/10. Tired old retread of 1980s welfare queen myths.

a teacher wrote:

I'm on Zoom all day with kids, mostly low and low-ish income. Have a bunch of working-class families that live in not-so-nice homes, parents work multiple jobs, etc.

Also have a bunch of do-nothing layabout parents living in public housing mansions. I'm not kidding...these are 4 story townhouses on prime downtown real estate. They are $1M+ properties. Better than what my wife and I can afford on two decent incomes.

The parents literally lay in bed all day, leaving their (many) children unsupervised. Kids tell me the parents are "tired from partying."

Fake story, there's no such thing as a four story townhouse on prime downtown real estate for $1M+, try four million. Maybe in Buffalo you can buy a townhouse for a million, but that's not "prime" real estate.

Precious Roy wrote:

0/10. Tired old retread of 1980s welfare queen myths.

Not necessarily. My family lives in an 850 square foot co-op apartment in NYC. I have students who live in much bigger public housing apartments

In NYC these "NYCHA" apartment complexes are often close to "middle class" or luxury buildings.

There may be exceptions but anyone who has visited public housing will know how horrible some of them are.

How much money do your kids earn? How much money do the kids in low-income housing earn? I'm gonna guess that the answer to both of these questions is "$0." So why do your kids deserve better housing than the kids you teach when they are all equally productive?

I know this is fake, because you said you are a teacher and then you said you earn a decent income.

Signed,

A real teacher

The implication that all parents in public housing don't work is ridiculous.

coo story bruh wrote:

a teacher wrote:

I'm on Zoom all day with kids, mostly low and low-ish income. Have a bunch of working-class families that live in not-so-nice homes, parents work multiple jobs, etc.

Also have a bunch of do-nothing layabout parents living in public housing mansions. I'm not kidding...these are 4 story townhouses on prime downtown real estate. They are $1M+ properties. Better than what my wife and I can afford on two decent incomes.

The parents literally lay in bed all day, leaving their (many) children unsupervised. Kids tell me the parents are "tired from partying."

Fake story, there's no such thing as a four story townhouse on prime downtown real estate for $1M+, try four million. Maybe in Buffalo you can buy a townhouse for a million, but that's not "prime" real estate.

Not literally "downtown" as in financial district, but in the nice part of a highly desirable neighborhood. They could be 1.5 million, not sure on the exact square footage.

Brand new, nice appliances, the works. One kid, who was locked in his mother's bedroom all day today (top floor master bedroom) because she had friends over and was partying downstairs, showed me his mom's "dressing room." Literally, a walk-in closet the size of a small bedroom.

I wish I was exaggerating.

Though I will admit that *some* parents in public housing, like Donald Trump, don't work much...

TDF wrote:

I know this is fake, because you said you are a teacher and then you said you earn a decent income.

Signed,

A real teacher

I work in a major city. It's tough work, and a lot of people quit pretty quickly, but we earn pretty good money if you can stick it out.

a teacher wrote:

coo story bruh wrote:

Fake story, there's no such thing as a four story townhouse on prime downtown real estate for $1M+, try four million. Maybe in Buffalo you can buy a townhouse for a million, but that's not "prime" real estate.

Not literally "downtown" as in financial district, but in the nice part of a highly desirable neighborhood. They could be 1.5 million, not sure on the exact square footage.

Brand new, nice appliances, the works. One kid, who was locked in his mother's bedroom all day today (top floor master bedroom) because she had friends over and was partying downstairs, showed me his mom's "dressing room." Literally, a walk-in closet the size of a small bedroom.

I wish I was exaggerating.

Yes, the nice parts of highly desirable neighborhoods... that's where the townhouses cost four million. Why would there be townhouses in the financial district? That's where the glass office buildings are.

Have you even been to a city? You really stink at making up stories.

coach wrote:

Precious Roy wrote:

0/10. Tired old retread of 1980s welfare queen myths.

Not necessarily. My family lives in an 850 square foot co-op apartment in NYC. I have students who live in much bigger public housing apartments

In NYC these "NYCHA" apartment complexes are often close to "middle class" or luxury buildings.

0/10. Would you want to swap out your co-op for a larger NYCHA apartment? NYCHA housing is a disgrace. They are under the supervision of a federal monitor after it came to light that there was about $30 bil+ in deferred maintenance that had piled up over a decade of neglect. Lead paint, rat infestations, broken elevators, bad drinking water, sewage leaks, and so on. Sure, people live on the upper west side in NYHCA apartments that would be outrageously expensive if they were private apartments. But where the hell are people who work the minimum wage jobs in NYC supposed to live? And why should poor people have to live in a dump? Why can't we as a society provide everyone with a place to live where they can live with dignity. Look at Vienna. Equally ridiculous private real estate market as NY. But they provide beautiful public housing integrated with private units.

a teacher wrote:

I'm on Zoom all day with kids, mostly low and low-ish income. Have a bunch of working-class families that live in not-so-nice homes, parents work multiple jobs, etc.

Also have a bunch of do-nothing layabout parents living in public housing mansions. I'm not kidding...these are 4 story townhouses on prime downtown real estate. They are $1M+ properties. Better than what my wife and I can afford on two decent incomes.

The parents literally lay in bed all day, leaving their (many) children unsupervised. Kids tell me the parents are "tired from partying."

What?

You mean Trump was paying out all this money? I feel cheated, he lied to us.

So you're telling me that while you are supposed to be teaching for every child, that you are using that time in some capacity to judge the appearance, size and possessions in the home of the parent of the student?

Then you are using it to generate resentment?

That's very base of you at the core.

I've worked in education in several different professional or paraprofessional ways and have never made more than $20k in a year within the over 15 years I have worked in that field.

Never once have I judged a student on an income basis.

Shame on you.

Stoppit Smith wrote:

I've worked in education in several different professional or paraprofessional ways and have never made more than $20k in a year within the over 15 years I have worked in that field..

Now I understand why you’re always so angry. I value the work I do. I don’t show up for charity wages.

What is wrong with you? Did I say I want to trade my coop for NYCHA housing? I'm quite aware of public housing and stated that public housing is often larger than a typical NY apartment. Period. 0/10?

At the moment you are judging parental income that was peripherally provided to you via what you saw on zoom, you lost the value of those for whom you work, regardless of how much you value your work.

Stoppit Smith wrote:

At the moment you are judging parental income that was peripherally provided to you via what you saw on zoom, you lost the value of those for whom you work, regardless of how much you value your work.

Peripherally? The parents are laying in bed all day telling their kids to shut up while I try to help them practice reading. They don’t work. They live for free on taxpayer dime. They are human garbage.

And I say this as someone who also lives on taxpayer dime, but at least I do something to earn my paycheck.

You're a teacher making these judgments about the parents.

It's of no consequence to you if they work.

Their kids are with you in your virtual classroom

It's not your job to legislate or even regard the work level of parents or where they live.