Runner stabs dog to death while out on a run in Belgium

I am Sam wrote:

You're a bit worked up, definitely lock up all knives around you for sure

Thanks. That is what I was going for.

To get so worked up about a small unleashed dog that you KILL it shows there are bigger problems.

"If you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail."

I am Sam wrote:

Opinionated guy wrote:

Imagine being so afraid of life in general that you carry a knife on runs. That too, is also absolutely pathetic.

Why don't people read the OP or the article before posting. One wonders how they get through life.

The OP makes it clear the runner carries a small knife to collect plants.

Totally BS!

Think about it, a tiny dog like that. He would have to stop, bend way way down.

And to stab it in the heart or chest, meant he placed his hand near the mouth which is the business end.

He planned it out.

Reply to bigtool0; "Absolutely astounding to me how evil and hateful some people are on this thread. I'm not going to ever defend dog owners who keep their dogs off leash and let them run at strangers, but to say that its fair and defensible to slaughter the dog for this so horrifically evil I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around it."

I think your registered name may fit you appropriately. You are likely just a big tool, that has not been attacked or chased by a dog(s).

If the owners had been responsible and leashed him as they should have, the dog would be alive. (period)

Personally, I don't collect plants on my run (and therefore do not carry a knife), but I have absolutely no qualms about chucking a nice sized rock or piece of wood at an unleashed harassing mutt. Lacking either of those objects a good kick to its head will have to suffice.

Evil? Nope. Completely justified - I am with the runner on this one. Just leash your dog and no one gets hurt. Pretty simple. Now if he had stabbed the owners instead? Well maybe, just maybe I would be less sympathetic.

How come nobody speculates as to how afraid this Belgian man must have been. Afraid enough to stab rather than to risk torn tendons and ligaments from canine teeth digging into his running legs. Think of the fearful adrenaline rush, then protecting himself from serious and potentially life altering injury.

I’d speculate that the teeth of a jack russel terrier could tear an Achilles’ tendon. That injury could be life altering if he worked manual labor, timely to heal, and probably expensive. Not being able to run could put his already unstable mental health into a bad place.

I personally think he should have just kicked the dog and ask the owner to be more responsible, but no one here is playing devil’s advocate.

devils advocate 2 wrote:

How come nobody speculates as to how afraid this Belgian man must have been. Afraid enough to stab rather than to risk torn tendons and ligaments from canine teeth digging into his running legs. Think of the fearful adrenaline rush, then protecting himself from serious and potentially life altering injury.

I’d speculate that the teeth of a jack russel terrier could tear an Achilles’ tendon. That injury could be life altering if he worked manual labor, timely to heal, and probably expensive. Not being able to run could put his already unstable mental health into a bad place.

I personally think he should have just kicked the dog and ask the owner to be more responsible, but no one here is playing devil’s advocate.

I'm rather imagining the dog went straight for the nether regions...as they do.

Think about how that would work out without a knife.

devils advocate 2 wrote:

How come nobody speculates as to how afraid this Belgian man must have been. Afraid enough to stab rather than to risk torn tendons and ligaments from canine teeth digging into his running legs. Think of the fearful adrenaline rush, then protecting himself from serious and potentially life altering injury.

I’d speculate that the teeth of a jack russel terrier could tear an Achilles’ tendon. That injury could be life altering if he worked manual labor, timely to heal, and probably expensive. Not being able to run could put his already unstable mental health into a bad place.

I personally think he should have just kicked the dog and ask the owner to be more responsible, but no one here is playing devil’s advocate.

This. Jack Russells are small but they're not that small, more on the lower end of 'medium size.' Plus they can have pretty nasty bites given their size. A bite from them could easily land you in the hospital for stitches. Think about it - you're running, collecting some plants, minding your own business and some mongrel bites you on the ankle, breaking skin. You're gushing blood and now have to walk possibly several miles back to your car, bleeding out from your leg, just to go to the hospital to get yourself a tetanus/rabies shot and stitches. I would easily kill some POS dog just to avoid that, no matter how cute the dog is. Maybe that can act as a lesson to the all the idiot dog owners out there who let stupid (but VERY easily preventable) situations like this happen. People are tired of this kind of thing happening because morons feel they need a dog - AND THIS IS COMING FROM AN AVID DOG LOVER!

And before people say "It's just a small dog, you're being dramatic" here's what a jack russell can do.

Very dickish and presumptuous response. I've been running in heavily populated areas for my entire life and have encountered hundreds of dogs while running, if not thousands. There've been a few occasions where I've been chased by mean, off-leash dogs, and in those situations I had no qualms at all about using force to get the dogs to back off. That said, I would only find it morally justified to stab a dog to death if it very clearly posed a threat to my life, which doesn't seem to even be remotely the case in this story. This was a tiny dog that very clearly posed no threat whatsoever to this man's life and probably didn't even pose any real threat to his safety, since it sounds like the dog was just playfully running next to him. And even if it did pose a reasonable threat to his safety, it could have been easily dispatched by a sturdy kick and some strong words for the owners. Brutally killing an animal and causing massive anguish to its owners in the process, just for the crime of it being off leash, is so utterly heartless and evil that it boggles my mind that people can defend it. The fact that you went further and implied that the owners might even deserve to get stabbed tells me all I need to know about you.

People on this forum sometimes....

There is no way I'd ever stab a Jack Russell.

It would be much more fun to take a running kick at the yappy little ****bag and punt it over someone's house.

I've scar tissue on my right knee from a dog attack which left me with hole in my flesh and many weeks of rehabilitation. Now I have pepper spray with me on all my runs and from time to time I've been using it. Probably the one time when pepper spray really saved me was when I was attacked by multiple street dogs at once. The best part though about pepper spray is that not necessarily you need to actually hurt the dog. Most of the times it's enough to spray small amount in front of the dog and it immediately stops/steps back. The risky part is that you need to watch the wind as even a tiny amount inhaled by yourself will cause a lot of coughing and burning.

Yep. Confirmed. You are a 'bigtool'.

You also have absolutely zero sense of humor.

Jesus, there are so many grade-A p*ssies in this world. It's barely bigger than a large rodent, just kick it if you have to or carry pepper spray like the other guy said, which also works on hostile humans. There's no reason to stab it, if you're really that afraid or you really are that sick to kill a random dog then you deserve to die or have your genitals mutilated by a dog because you shouldn't be reproducing and spreading your freak genes into the world. Yeah, dogs are annoying little sh*ts half the time, especially on runs, but normal people don't just kill dogs on a whim.

Carrying a knife might lead to dangerous overconfidence. People here are talking like you can easily kill the dog at will.

A small knife, or especially a folding knife that might be slow to access in a hurry under stress, is not a sure bet against many dogs. I would prefer a knife to no knife, but would consider this a last resort option, and recognize that this could be quite a battle. (e.g., some pit-bulls have been shot repeatedly and not given up).

That's a waste of a perfectly good dog:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR6d67O6478

Here is the real question:

With all your 100-mile-weeks, Canova sessions, plyos etc etc derived from this board, how come you are afraid you can't outrun something with 4 inch legs?

If I had a knife while running. I would have stabbed a half of a dozen dogs who attempted to bit or chase me.

A knife is fine as protection - none of you runners that are truly fast could ever beat up an average human. You guys are underweight and full of slow twitch muscles. It's just not happening.

Right now, the article is based solely off the owner's story - of course the owners are going to present the best side of their dog. We don't know if the dog was attacking, trying to attack or just running alongside.

Dog obviously should have been on leash, this wouldn't have happened otherwise.

Knife seems like overkill, but again we don't know what the dog was doing.