Cooper Teare & Luis Grijalva ATTEMPTING to break Collegiate Record

Cooper, I would argue, is in better shape.

This is a bad take. You’re a high schooler who doesn’t understand altitude training at all. Don’t pretend you can compare the two guys.

@TheRunningEffect wrote:

They're in the "sub 13:15" group with many studs competing. They easily could have gone in the 13:30 if they wanted to. This shows they're ready to take down the record.

Nico listed in the sub 13:30 group.

Luis isn't that good until he fixes his biomechanical flaw.. until then, he will have a ceiling.

Luis is definitely gonna take the W. A 10:52 4K converts to about 13:49. Impressive sure, but not record worthy. That 3200 is also arrow. 13:50-55. And while that workout it certainly impressive, if he was in 13:15 shape that workout is basically a bunch of 8k-10k pace work with a fast last 400.

Luis meanwhile just outkicked conner mantz and Casey clinger a couple weeks back.

If you want to run a fast 5k, you need to be running fast in practice. That workout for Cooper almost seems like a 10k/HM thing

What flaw is that? Not criticizing, genuinely curious.

What biomechanical flaw is that?

sometimes wrote:

Luis is definitely gonna take the W. A 10:52 4K converts to about 13:49. Impressive sure, but not record worthy. That 3200 is also arrow. 13:50-55. And while that workout it certainly impressive, if he was in 13:15 shape that workout is basically a bunch of 8k-10k pace work with a fast last 400.

Luis meanwhile just outkicked conner mantz and Casey clinger a couple weeks back.

If you want to run a fast 5k, you need to be running fast in practice. That workout for Cooper almost seems like a 10k/HM thing

Hot take. Many pros in this race who are better than Grijalva in my opinion. also worth noting that Cooper Teare's 2 mile was a 4:23-4:12 negative split

Some say that a half distance time trial can predict the full distance and 4:22 pace for the 8k would give you 21:44

That converts to 13:10

epic gamer_ wrote:

sometimes wrote:

Luis is definitely gonna take the W. A 10:52 4K converts to about 13:49. Impressive sure, but not record worthy. That 3200 is also arrow. 13:50-55. And while that workout it certainly impressive, if he was in 13:15 shape that workout is basically a bunch of 8k-10k pace work with a fast last 400.

Luis meanwhile just outkicked conner mantz and Casey clinger a couple weeks back.

If you want to run a fast 5k, you need to be running fast in practice. That workout for Cooper almost seems like a 10k/HM thing

Hot take. Many pros in this race who are better than Grijalva in my opinion. also worth noting that Cooper Teare's 2 mile was a 4:23-4:12 negative split

Maybe Errasa or Bor could take it. I didn’t realize the splits on the 2 mile, but realistically a 13:15 guy should be able to run 8:16 or so. That’s 10 seconds faster per mile, so I don’t think it’s realistic really.

Anyone know why Connor Mantz isn’t racing? Some of his teammates are but he isn’t.

I believe he's injured. I follow him on strava and all he's been posting for a while now is biking and swimming

mike smith nau wrote:

Anyone know why Connor Mantz isn’t racing? Some of his teammates are but he isn’t.

Injured. He's been crosstraining for a week or more already.

The “sub 13:15” group has like 2 guys with any prayer of breaking 13:15

Here you go, DirtyT, if you haven't seen him in person.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPWPgC_uSrk

DirtyT wrote:

What biomechanical flaw is that?

Standard Setter wrote:

Here you go, DirtyT, if you haven't seen him in person.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPWPgC_uSrk

DirtyT wrote:

What biomechanical flaw is that?

Looks excellent.

Dr Yuengling wrote:

The “sub 13:15” group has like 2 guys with any prayer of breaking 13:15

All the tinman guys are way overseeded.

Are you kidding?

Luis is smooth as butter.

I would agree. He carries his right arm a tad high but I highly doubt that's causing any sort of considerable difference.

sometimes wrote:

Luis is definitely gonna take the W. A 10:52 4K converts to about 13:49. Impressive sure, but not record worthy. That 3200 is also arrow. 13:50-55. And while that workout it certainly impressive, if he was in 13:15 shape that workout is basically a bunch of 8k-10k pace work with a fast last 400.

Luis meanwhile just outkicked conner mantz and Casey clinger a couple weeks back.

If you want to run a fast 5k, you need to be running fast in practice. That workout for Cooper almost seems like a 10k/HM thing

Okay first of all your conversion seems off but regardless of that, Cooper has much better raw talent that will leap him ahead of Luis in this field. Guy was a 3:55 miler last indoor, incredible strength, not to downplay Luis, he's incredible as well, but best believe Cooper takes Luis down.