COVID cases jumped in September. Now COVID deaths are climbing in October. Who could have predicted that???

2600 bro wrote:

yes, he's a psychopath because he doesn't... read long messages on a running board?

Pot meet kettle?

Lead Foil Hat II wrote:

Dude, are you a psychopath? Yes, yes you are. The guy points out a lot of good things, most of them already obvious to the majority of society that have been forced to follow the delusional narrow minded and unscientific views of paranoid narcissists like yourself. Society needs now everyone to be like Allen and shut down the fear mongering and the push to keep this gross exaggeration going.

Yes, we already know you and Harambe...and Precious Roy...all are the same misguided pot and lying person. Liar, you are a liar.

Lead Foil Hat II wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

yes, he's a psychopath because he doesn't... read long messages on a running board?

Pot meet kettle?

Yes, we already know you and Harambe...and Precious Roy...all are the same misguided pot and lying person. Liar, you are a liar.

and investigator1 = you; how many names do you use here?

We outnumber you 4:1 bro.

2600 bro wrote:

We outnumber you 4:1 bro.

you mean 1:1 DB

“THERE ARE NO EXCESS DEATHS” & there haven’t been since end-June.

Everything since (and before) is medical fraud at huge scale.

https://twitter.com/MichaelYeadon3/status/1321794985155567617

Harambe wrote:

HiII Stomper wrote:

POY

Harambe, you and your ilk are going to be an embarrassment in the history of the human Race.

Lol, reasonable public health actions -- one of the primary roles of a state -- is not "tyranny of the majority." When the cop pulls you over for speeding do you feed him the same macho BS?

"reasonable public health actions". Making people wear masks under the penalty of a fine, closing schools and telling people to eat outside in late October in NYC where it's rained pretty much daily for the last week is not reasonable in the mind of any reasonable American.

Again, if YOU are so scared of this virus, YOU stay home. I'm ready to get back to normal life. I don't care if the 220,000 number is accurate or not. This isn't Captain Trips from The Stand. It's a highly contagious virus that is highly treatable with an extremely low mortality rate. The best way to handle that at this point is to attempt to protect the most vulnerable and let everyone else live their lives as if it were October 2019.

I cannot fathom what a bunch of colossal p*ssies you all are. Either that, or more likely, you predicted this was gonna be the next great dying in March and are too stubborn to go back on it now. Regardless, get it through your head that some of us don't care how many 90 year olds die from this, it isn't worth the damage it is doing to our schoolkids and working class.

Dr. Fauci probably could have predicted this especially since his boss wasn't taking any medical advice.

Lead Foil Hat II wrote:

Harambe wrote:

See, you used to claim that most COVID deaths were misreported.

Now you seem fine with the 220k number.

Art of the Deal -- gotem

I don't agree with the 220,000 number, but that is the official reported number DB. You are just making up a larger one to sell fear and kill more people. You are just a liar with a purpose and that is the delivery of chaos and actual death.

Most people agree that excess death numbers are a fair way to judge the true cost of COVID.

Don't get all grumpy because I caught you in my little snare -- like a fluffy rabbit.

Harambe wrote:

Most people agree that excess death numbers are a fair way to judge the true cost of COVID.

Did you conduct a scientific poll? Or did you pull that out of thin air?

"Excess death" can mean a number of things. Flu, lack of cancer treatment, lack of exercise outdoors due to COVID fear, etc...

Why did you ignore the link by Allen from a science expert who said there have been no excess deaths since the end of June?

Nobody should trust Harambe. He's just a contrarian troll. He cherrypicks "cases" or "hospitalizations" without even acknowledging the solid pieces of evidence by others.

facts and reason wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Most people agree that excess death numbers are a fair way to judge the true cost of COVID.

Did you conduct a scientific poll? Or did you pull that out of thin air?

"Excess death" can mean a number of things. Flu, lack of cancer treatment, lack of exercise outdoors due to COVID fear, etc...

Why did you ignore the link by Allen from a science expert who said there have been no excess deaths since the end of June?

Nobody should trust Harambe. He's just a contrarian troll. He cherrypicks "cases" or "hospitalizations" without even acknowledging the solid pieces of evidence by others.

"Science expert"

Yes, hello, I am an expert in all things science. You sound like a 6th grader.

Look at the CDC dashboard.

Sure looks like excess to me!!!

I have been over this before with you. Excess deaths only seem to occur in places and times with COVID outbreaks -- regardless of lockdown status. I have yet to see evidence that a significant amount of these excess deaths are non-COVID.

Regardless, thank you for not disputing the 220k official COVID deaths -- you guys were pretty hard to convince of that :).

facts and reason wrote:

Why did you ignore the link by Allen from a science expert who said there have been no excess deaths since the end of June?

Oh geez, I didn't realize how bad this attempt was.

That data is for the UK!

We are clearly discussing death toll in the USA. Keep up

Harambe wrote:

facts and reason wrote:

Did you conduct a scientific poll? Or did you pull that out of thin air?

"Science expert"

Yes, hello, I am an expert in all things science. You sound like a 6th grader.

So you admit you did not conduct a scientific poll. Your post has zero credibility.

Now you are claiming to be an "expert" in science.

No, Harambe, you are an anonymous person on the internet with no proof of qualifications.

facts and reason wrote:

Harambe wrote:

"Science expert"

Yes, hello, I am an expert in all things science. You sound like a 6th grader.

So you admit you did not conduct a scientific poll. Your post has zero credibility.

Now you are claiming to be an "expert" in science.

No, Harambe, you are an anonymous person on the internet with no proof of qualifications.

No, I was making fun of you for using the term "science expert" which is fairly nonsensical.

Sorry-- went over your head.

Also I notice your posts tend slowly lose substance over time as you argue...

It's ok to just stop posting if you can't come up with anything.

You've already given me that the 220k official count is legit, if you're not more careful we will be agreeing on everything by the time you're done here.

Harambe wrote:

You've already given me that the 220k official count is legit, if you're not more careful we will be agreeing on everything by the time you're done here.

Ok, so you take that back. You are not claiming to be a science expert.

But you admit that Dr. Mike Yeardon is an expert in science, since he was the former chief science officer at Pfizer.

You also let go of your claim that most people agree "excess deaths" are proof of COVID deaths.

"Any test with a cycle threshold above 35 is too sensitive, agreed Juliet Morrison, a virologist at the University of California, Riverside. “I’m shocked that people would think that 40 could represent a positive,” she said."

"A 60-year-old man who died from a gun shot wound to the head.

A 90-year-old man who fell and died from complications of a hip fracture.

A 77-year-old woman who died of Parkinson's disease.

These are some of the deaths in Palm Beach County recently, and incorrectly, attributed to COVID-19 in medical examiner records."

No, I don't accept the "220k" figure.

By definition, you are never "done here" because you are a contrarian troll. Whatever evidence we present will always be criticized and denied by you.

facts and reason wrote:

Why did you ignore the link by Allen from a science expert who said there have been no excess deaths since the end of June?

I was making fun of you, dude, I'm sorry you didn't get it. Cringe....

So we are seeing 300k+ excess deaths. A majority of them (220k+) coded as COVID.

Do you think the number is actually much less? Do you think doctors across the country are making gigantic errors in death coding, repeatedly, leading to a massive overcount of COVID deaths?

That's what it would take for your claims to be true! That's a big ask. I'd like evidence.

You don't have any evidence. So there's nothing for me to deny.

Meanwhile, I have 220k COVID and 300k excess deaths that you talk yourself in a circle trying to explain away.

I love you Allen. You are the one person that has been a voice of expertise and reason throughout this " pandemic". In fact, "Allen53" has become a part of our family dinner conversations. Keep posting and ignore the panicheads.

Good luck, Utah.

https://twitter.com/GovHerbert/status/1321870599606595584?s=19