dunes runner wrote:
Wearing a mask is harmful to health, is dangerous, and is child abuse and abuse to the elderly. I don't wear a mask anytime, anywhere. Sometimes I'm the only person in a store not wearing a mask. People come up to me and say they wish they didn't have to wear a mask either, so I tell them to just take it off. There's no good reason to do something that negatively affects your health and well being.
https://thehighwire.com/videos/mask-whistleblowers-tell-all/
Nowary- except the two largest cities
Mask people are sad. I feel so bad for them.
There are states in the US where there is almost no govt induced paranoia going on.
Mostly democrat cities and surrounding areas that have the worst mental cases.
Absolute bonkers.
Glad I live far enough away that everyone in our surrounding towns is normal. They realize the situation for what it is and don't wear the official symbol of the panicked brainwashed masses.
The US is right now one of the worst regarding this. People from other countries that have visited here are horrified at what democrat cities look like. It's like a dystopian world in real life, right now. Its half a year since "flattening the curve" and they're still managing to do this to Americans.
They just can't understand how it is possible that so many have been so thoroughly brainwashed. They now have a clear understanding of how much power corporate America wields and what it can do. Far more than the Soviets, Chinese, or 1940s Germans could do.
HLq wrote:
Even if covid is eradicated, mask-wearing should be normalized
100% disagree. That is a horrible and draconian idea. What is normal is not wearing a mask, interacting with other human beings. And smiling for once. I bet all the maskers are anti smiling too.
Little kids wearing masks is downright dangerous. Children under 14 need to breath, spit, sneeze and cough on each other to develop immunity to common germs. I fear that we are going to see millions of sick teenagers and young adults over the next 20 years.
Bullet_Proof wrote:
HLq wrote:
Even if covid is eradicated, mask-wearing should be normalized
100% disagree. That is a horrible and draconian idea. What is normal is not wearing a mask, interacting with other human beings. And smiling for once. I bet all the maskers are anti smiling too.
Yes- and children need to see faces to develop. This relates to so many facets of child psychology not just non-verbal cues.
Yet in schools all over the place kids are in masks by "educators" who either know this and go along with or do not know this and therefore have no business being an educator of children.
Plenty of maskers out there who may not want to wear the mask but "go along with it" and then resent those of us who refuse to wear masks instead of standing up for what they believe in.
That's really messed up psychology.
Dope Hardstrong wrote:
Nope Hardstrong wrote:
I haven’t been sick since this hysteria started either...and I avoid wearing a mask unless required to enter a grocery store or restaurant.
That's why you're not sick. That's when I wear one too.
Exactly. Everyone else may be wearing a mask and protecting the poster, not to mention social distancing and remote learning. New Zealand hasn't had a flu season at all. I usually have a cold every few months, but nothing this year.
Corphlough wrote:
the media is corrupt wrote:
Saw a man driving alone in his car this morning with a mask on. It’s scary how easily manipulated the masses are.
It's ridiculous. I was in line at Target and the idiotic woman in front of me held the whole line up spraying and wiping literally everything before she would complete the purchase - she sprayed the product she bought after it was scanned, the bag it was put in, the plexiglass, the card keypad, her own credit card after she used it, and then did the whole hand sanitizer bit. Just an absurd display. I felt like dumping a bottle of sanitizer on her head. I should have, but I'm a peaceful person by nature.
It's been shown that there is a HIGH correlation between the pro-maskers and BLM supporters. So you know the mentality behind all this dramatic fusstidinous.
Yes. That mentality is called humanitarianism.
HLq wrote:
driftwood wrote:
According to latest CDC study of 3 days ago Masks are virtually worthless . So I would stay put
awhile and see if this CDC report gets traction...
Honestly the ignorance on display is just astonishing. I honestly don't understand how any human could be this stupid.
First of all, the main point of masking in this context is not to keep the wearer from getting infected. The point of wearing masks it to keep people who may be infectious without knowing it from spreading the infection to others. So it's completely irrelevant how many people got infected while wearing a mask. The relevant question is how many people got infected despite everyone around them wearing a mask. Anyone debating whether masks protect the wearer from infection is completely missing the point.
But even if you do want to argue that point, this "study" doesn't mean what you claim it means. It's not even a study. It's just a self-reported survey of a non-random sample with no control group. You can't conclude anything at all about the efficacy of masks from this. And if you think you can, then I hope you have a legal guardian, because you are too stupid to make any decisions for yourself.
At a bare minimum the least you would need to even start speculating is you would need to know how what percentage of not-infected people report wearing masks. If 85% of infected people claimed they wore a mask, but 95% of not-infected people claimed they wore a mask... then the evidence suggests that masks make a positive difference. If all you know is how many infected people claimed they wore a mask and you don't even know how many not-infected people claimed to have worn a mask, then you know absolutely nothing at all. Even if you did have that info, the groups are self-selected and subject to selection bias, but at least I understand people being too stupid to understand selection bias. The level of stupidity we have on display here is simply beyond my comprehension.
The level of stupidity is people following mandates like sheep and wearing masks. There have been no studies that actually show masks stop the spread - only possibly, maybe, could possibly, etc. And any expert or doctor that come out that are not pro-mask or completely shut down by the MSM and social media. In fact, if masks actually did prevent the spread then why are there all these case spikes happening in areas that have mask mandates?
I don't wear a mask and haven't been sick. I've also been tested 6 times - 4 times because I had to go to the hospital for minor procedures and 2 times as part of local volunteer testing - all negative. The volunteer testing also included antibody testing, so I also had 2 negative antibody tests as well, so don't try to say I may have been asymptomatic and possibly spread COVID. I do know 2 people that wear masks everywhere they go and guess what? They both got COVID.
I suspect the Russians are on this site (and others) trying to dissuade Americans from wearing masks by claiming there is no evidence they work. Do all of you really think the doctors and scientists are part of some plot? Think. Don't buy into Russian BS. They're dividing us and a lot of gullible people are buying in.
“It’s not so much staying alive, it’s staying human that is important. What counts is that we don’t betray each other.” —George Orwell
Actually an idiot.
Great data you listed there. “I know people that got COVID and wore a mask.”
Haha! So stupid!
old guy 74 wrote:
I suspect the Russians are on this site (and others) trying to dissuade Americans from wearing masks by claiming there is no evidence they work. Do all of you really think the doctors and scientists are part of some plot? Think. Don't buy into Russian BS. They're dividing us and a lot of gullible people are buying in.
Nope. It's that some people use common sense and science to know that mask mandates are nothing but control . And yes, I do believe doctors like Faucci are part of the this plan. If not, then why does the media refuse to report on any doctors or experts that have different views and science to back up their views? These are the same people who claim a woman can become a man, a man can become a woman, and there are multiple genders.
The media refusing to report on the Hunter Biden emails, and social media censoring those reports, show just how much they are spewing propaganda from the left. Anything that doesn't fit their agenda related to COVID they will not report.
This whole sham in the US has been driven by predominately democrat run states and cities to harm the economy, knowing that if the economy remained strong then there would be no way to beat Trump. It's also been a clear test to see how easily controlled and manipulated many American's have been to not only accept the lockdowns and mask mandates but to try to demand them. If they accept these, what else will they accept?
Again, if masks actually worked to prevent the spread, then there wouldn't continue to be spikes in COVID cases, in fact COVID cases would be significantly dropping. But they aren't. Masks don't work to prevent the spread. They do nothing but show how easily manipulated and controlled people are willing to be.
Ignore main stream media wrote:
HLq wrote:
[quote]driftwood wrote:
According to latest CDC study of 3 days ago Masks are virtually worthless . So I would stay put
awhile and see if this CDC report gets traction...
Honestly the ignorance on display is just astonishing. I honestly don't understand how any human could be this stupid.
First of all, the main point of masking in this context is not to keep the wearer from getting infected. The point of wearing masks it to keep people who may be infectious without knowing it from spreading the infection to others. So it's completely irrelevant how many people got infected while wearing a mask. The relevant question is how many people got infected despite everyone around them wearing a mask. Anyone debating whether masks protect the wearer from infection is completely missing the point.
But even if you do want to argue that point, this "study" doesn't mean what you claim it means. It's not even a study. It's just a self-reported survey of a non-random sample with no control group. You can't conclude anything at all about the efficacy of masks from this. And if you think you can, then I hope you have a legal guardian, because you are too stupid to make any decisions for yourself.
At a bare minimum the least you would need to even start speculating is you would need to know how what percentage of not-infected people report wearing masks. If 85% of infected people claimed they wore a mask, but 95% of not-infected people claimed they wore a mask... then the evidence suggests that masks make a positive difference. If all you know is how many infected people claimed they wore a mask and you don't even know how many not-infected people claimed to have worn a mask, then you know absolutely nothing at all. Even if you did have that info, the groups are self-selected and subject to selection bias, but at least I understand people being too stupid to understand selection bias. The level of stupidity we have on display here is simply beyond my comprehension.
The level of stupidity is people following mandates like sheep and wearing masks. There have been no studies that actually show masks stop the spread - only possibly, maybe, could possibly, etc. And any expert or doctor that come out that are not pro-mask or completely shut down by the MSM and social media. In fact, if masks actually did prevent the spread then why are there all these case spikes happening in areas that have mask mandates?
I don't wear a mask and haven't been sick. I've also been tested 6 times - 4 times because I had to go to the hospital for minor procedures and 2 times as part of local volunteer testing - all negative. The volunteer testing also included antibody testing, so I also had 2 negative antibody tests as well, so don't try to say I may have been asymptomatic and possibly spread COVID. I do know 2 people that wear masks everywhere they go and guess what? They both got COVID.[/quote
It’s very simple.
It’s like a condom. It helps reduce the risk, it’s not full proof you dummy.
Insecure wrote:
Ignore main stream media wrote:
Honestly the ignorance on display is just astonishing. I honestly don't understand how any human could be this stupid.
First of all, the main point of masking in this context is not to keep the wearer from getting infected. The point of wearing masks it to keep people who may be infectious without knowing it from spreading the infection to others. So it's completely irrelevant how many people got infected while wearing a mask. The relevant question is how many people got infected despite everyone around them wearing a mask. Anyone debating whether masks protect the wearer from infection is completely missing the point.
But even if you do want to argue that point, this "study" doesn't mean what you claim it means. It's not even a study. It's just a self-reported survey of a non-random sample with no control group. You can't conclude anything at all about the efficacy of masks from this. And if you think you can, then I hope you have a legal guardian, because you are too stupid to make any decisions for yourself.
At a bare minimum the least you would need to even start speculating is you would need to know how what percentage of not-infected people report wearing masks. If 85% of infected people claimed they wore a mask, but 95% of not-infected people claimed they wore a mask... then the evidence suggests that masks make a positive difference. If all you know is how many infected people claimed they wore a mask and you don't even know how many not-infected people claimed to have worn a mask, then you know absolutely nothing at all. Even if you did have that info, the groups are self-selected and subject to selection bias, but at least I understand people being too stupid to understand selection bias. The level of stupidity we have on display here is simply beyond my comprehension.
The level of stupidity is people following mandates like sheep and wearing masks. There have been no studies that actually show masks stop the spread - only possibly, maybe, could possibly, etc. And any expert or doctor that come out that are not pro-mask or completely shut down by the MSM and social media. In fact, if masks actually did prevent the spread then why are there all these case spikes happening in areas that have mask mandates?
I don't wear a mask and haven't been sick. I've also been tested 6 times - 4 times because I had to go to the hospital for minor procedures and 2 times as part of local volunteer testing - all negative. The volunteer testing also included antibody testing, so I also had 2 negative antibody tests as well, so don't try to say I may have been asymptomatic and possibly spread COVID. I do know 2 people that wear masks everywhere they go and guess what? They both got COVID.[/quote
It’s very simple.
It’s like a condom. It helps reduce the risk, it’s not full proof you dummy.
Only problem with this stupid, stupid analogy is that:
1) A condom will protect you 85% of the time. A non-N95 mask will help you 0.05% of the time.
Absolutely absurdly negligible.
2) There has to be a risk of something for you to need to wear a mask. Or any protective equipment. There is none. Level of risk is extremely low.
There's plenty of places you can go where people are not nuts and don't wear masks. Easier to find than you think.
It would be great if the nonsense stopped everywhere but we'll see how far they can push this in the major us metro areas.
old guy 74 wrote:
Do all of you really think the doctors and scientists are part of some plot?
The doctors, yes. The scientists are those who tell the truth, that masks are dangerous.
Allen53 wrote:
“It’s not so much staying alive, it’s staying human that is important. What counts is that we don’t betray each other.” —George Orwell
Great quotation!
You've obviously bought in. I think the NBA playoffs are proof that distancing and masks are effective.
Looks like you're still bought in. Heavily, old man.
Social distancing & mask wearing proven much better than this to make no difference in 160 countries. Wise up.
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