boat with a parachute wrote:
Get you story straight. Is it just the flu and a hoax or a Chinese bio weapon? You should choose one to look slightly less ridiculous.
I don’t know why it can’t be both, the media has created this deadly virus and stay in your bubble mindset which it’s not as bad as it’s been made to seem, go look at the millions of dead Americans headlines. And it was created to be a bio weapon.
Btw, if a Chinese person did make that claim, you could definitely expect that person to suddenly be “missing”. All you Americans that bash the president, be grateful you live in this country, if you did that in China, you would also “disappear”.
You all are such a bunch of suckers. This is a propaganda campaign by a fugitive Chinese billionaire Guo Wengui who has an ax to grind with Xi and Steve Bannon. Guo and Bannon started GNews, which is a website dedicated to bringing down the CCP.
The "study" by the Chinese virologist is full of bull. Basically, the authors claim that certain aspects of the spike protein are so unique that they could only be manufactured in a lab. But this ignores reams of research on bat coronaviruses that show that the spike protein evolution is very much expected and traces back to the virus in bats.
This is the most clear cut case of COVID 19 propaganda from head to toe.
I don't understand why people are so desperate to prove it was engineered. I haven't seen any convincing evidence -- as if there would even be any. Modern molecular bio techniques are 'scarless' and DNA is cheap to buy in any sequence.
Seems as if they should be running with the idea that it was an accidental release of a cataloged wild strain. THAT idea still holds plenty of water.
I guess they want to paint the Chinese researchers as truly evil, not just incompetent.
Harambe wrote:
I don't understand why people are so desperate to prove it was engineered. I haven't seen any convincing evidence -- as if there would even be any. Modern molecular bio techniques are 'scarless' and DNA is cheap to buy in any sequence.
Seems as if they should be running with the idea that it was an accidental release of a cataloged wild strain. THAT idea still holds plenty of water.
I guess they want to paint the Chinese researchers as truly evil, not just incompetent.
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You missed, or ignored. that there are published scientific papers from a laboratory in North Carolina stated they "engineered" a very infectious strain of Coronavirus. And also that the U.S. lab "engineered" it from samples from Wuhan, China. And that the U.S. lab paid a lab in China to help them with the "engineering" process.
Truly evil would be the U.S. for starting the process in the first place. It is not a stretch of the imagination to believe that under Trump's regime he sent a covert op to Wuhan, China to release the "engineered" virus as a way of getting back at China for beating Trump on his trade wars. The U.S. is now that evil, and incompetent. because Trump failed to realize the virus could not be contained within China.
semsurrrrrr wrote:
it's possible the virus was a joint effort between factions of the US and China, although the virologist interviewed claims it was manufactured by the Chinese military...
Here's my question: if it is, in fact, a bioweapon, doesn't it seem rather weak? We've all heard of the mass numbers of false-positives, the low lethality rate, the 6% CDC figure, etc.
Perhaps I'm conditioned by Hollywood and expect any 'bioweapon' to be like something out of the movie Contagion lol
Or perhaps this was just a milder version trial run...
I don't think the virus had a weak effect, it almost shut down the US and world economy completely and forced the US to take on massive debt to fund unemployment. and caused so much political turmoil that has added to the domino effect of political turmoil and civil unrest. I'd say the virus did a pretty good job at destabilizing the US.
lab it wrote:
Harambe wrote:
I don't understand why people are so desperate to prove it was engineered. I haven't seen any convincing evidence -- as if there would even be any. Modern molecular bio techniques are 'scarless' and DNA is cheap to buy in any sequence.
Seems as if they should be running with the idea that it was an accidental release of a cataloged wild strain. THAT idea still holds plenty of water.
I guess they want to paint the Chinese researchers as truly evil, not just incompetent.
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You missed, or ignored. that there are published scientific papers from a laboratory in North Carolina stated they "engineered" a very infectious strain of Coronavirus. And also that the U.S. lab "engineered" it from samples from Wuhan, China. And that the U.S. lab paid a lab in China to help them with the "engineering" process.
Truly evil would be the U.S. for starting the process in the first place. It is not a stretch of the imagination to believe that under Trump's regime he sent a covert op to Wuhan, China to release the "engineered" virus as a way of getting back at China for beating Trump on his trade wars. The U.S. is now that evil, and incompetent. because Trump failed to realize the virus could not be contained within China.
I get that GOF research is a thing.
I agree the merits of such work are dubious at best.
What you are suggesting is (a bit, LOL) speculative though.
lab it wrote:
Harambe wrote:
I don't understand why people are so desperate to prove it was engineered. I haven't seen any convincing evidence -- as if there would even be any. Modern molecular bio techniques are 'scarless' and DNA is cheap to buy in any sequence.
Seems as if they should be running with the idea that it was an accidental release of a cataloged wild strain. THAT idea still holds plenty of water.
I guess they want to paint the Chinese researchers as truly evil, not just incompetent.
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You missed, or ignored. that there are published scientific papers from a laboratory in North Carolina stated they "engineered" a very infectious strain of Coronavirus. And also that the U.S. lab "engineered" it from samples from Wuhan, China. And that the U.S. lab paid a lab in China to help them with the "engineering" process.
Truly evil would be the U.S. for starting the process in the first place. It is not a stretch of the imagination to believe that under Trump's regime he sent a covert op to Wuhan, China to release the "engineered" virus as a way of getting back at China for beating Trump on his trade wars. The U.S. is now that evil, and incompetent. because Trump failed to realize the virus could not be contained within China.
Can we also talk about the absurdity of a coronavirus bioweapon? We live in an extremely interconnected world economy. No modern, first world nation can survive without the global supply chain. China cannot make it without the US and vice a versa (and the same for the EU, BRIC, etc.). A bioweapon that is a high contagious virus is basically a suicide weapon as it can quickly and easily pass from the targeted country back to the adversary and destroy both as well as every other country that fails to protect itself. Real bioweapons are things that can contaminate the water supply or kill off livestock and crops without spreading back.
Whether COVD 19 was the result of an accident in the Wuhan lab or came from a wet market is really a moot point. China took responsibility for the outbreak and shut down their country in a very harsh way to contain and nearly eliminate it. The COVID 19 problem started in China, but it is now and international problem. Blaming China does nothing to stop transmission of the virus in the US. It is just a political game to deflect blame from the US's complete failure to protect its citizens from the virus.
Noo wrote:
I don't think the virus had a weak effect, it almost shut down the US and world economy completely and forced the US to take on massive debt to fund unemployment. and caused so much political turmoil that has added to the domino effect of political turmoil and civil unrest. I'd say the virus did a pretty good job at destabilizing the US.
This was not a conspiracy against the United States. The virus appeared all over the world. It's just that Americans are too flat-out stupid and insufferably selfish in order to correctly respond to the virus by abiding by COVID-19 safety protocol guidelines. This could have been brought down to a relatively minimal threat by April or May.
Harambe wrote:
lab it wrote:
Truly evil would be the U.S. for starting the process in the first place. It is not a stretch of the imagination to believe that under Trump's regime he sent a covert op to Wuhan, China to release the "engineered" virus as a way of getting back at China for beating Trump on his trade wars. The U.S. is now that evil, and incompetent. because Trump failed to realize the virus could not be contained within China.
What you are suggesting is (a bit, LOL) speculative though.
Do you realize who the president is? No stretch of the imagination at all. Trump knew way too much about this virus before it was in the news; before China even had a clue. Trump was absolutely certain it could not come to the U.S. And he was certain it would die out rather quickly; because it can only survive without a host for a few days. But he underestimated the power of what was unleashed.
Also of note is the fact that the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases (led by Dr. Fauci) has given millions of $$ to the Wuhan Institute of Virology and other institutions for research on bat coronaviruses.
This research focuses specifically on 'gain of function'...
The Tucker Carlson interview with that Virologist has been taken down and/or listed as false information, apparently social media found out about the interview and had experts that would know far more about it than her and it was proven untrue, so they took it down.
If it was true and China released it on purpose our troops would be paying China a Visit, and China would forever regret messing with the USA.
china has 1.4 bill population who will do whatever china tells them.
usa has 320 mill population and many of them wont even wear a mask, not that it's a bad thing.
but china would decimate our country in a war
Good old LRC!
Precious Roy gave a great write-up of how this whole thing was fake news cooked up with Steve Bannon and his chinese buddy's help and you guys carry on as though nothing had happened.
Enjoy yourselves!
The Chinese virologist is very doable I think.
semsurrrrrr wrote:
Also of note is the fact that the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases (led by Dr. Fauci) has given millions of $$ to the Wuhan Institute of Virology and other institutions for research on bat coronaviruses.
This research focuses specifically on 'gain of function'...
The US Army seems to have been the funding agency. Dr Ralph Baric is the lead guy on this biowarfare research. It is illegal unless the US military pays for it. GOF (Gain of Function) was being done back in 2014.
"Dr. Baric raised the eyebrows of the immunological community in 2015 by undertaking an unauthorized “gain of function” (GOF) study for the synthesis of a supercharged SARS coronavirus. This type of work is strictly forbidden by both the Centers for Disease Control and the World Health Organization. Yet, with the permission of the US Army, Dr. Baric was able to proceed with his work."
https://www.nih.gov/about-nih/who-we-are/nih-director/statements/statement-funding-pause-certain-types-gain-function-researchhttps://pappascookbook.wordpress.com/2020/04/16/coronavirus-made-by-the-us-dod-see-proof/Alan55 wrote:
Good old LRC!
Precious Roy gave a great write-up of how this whole thing was fake news cooked up with Steve Bannon and his chinese buddy's help and you guys carry on as though nothing had happened.
Enjoy yourselves!
YES. The CCP's head LRC troll and now his sockpuppet have spoken! Believe the Daily Beast, the most objective voice that Premier-for-life Xi has on the inter webs.
Sham 69 wrote:
china has 1.4 bill population who will do whatever china tells them.
usa has 320 mill population and many of them wont even wear a mask, not that it's a bad thing.
but china would decimate our country in a war
I don't think you are correct. We have more advanced weaponry than the Chinese, and would prevail. If it was believed that China would win a war, we would be quadrupling the Pentagon budget and building bases all over the Pacific. Not even the biggest warhawks are advocating that or sound alarm bells about being decimated by the Chinese.
But I do agree with you that US citizens present a problem in any war effort. I think we are really learning in the last 6 months just how many Americans actually hate their own country, and would probably welcome invading Chinese commies as heroes. I'd say 1/3 to 2/5 of Americans have that kind of hatred and emotion for America.
I don't believe COVID was a bio weapon. You could make a way more lethal virus in a lab. There are genuine medical reasons to modify viruses in a lab that have nothing to do with weaponizing it. I also do not believe the Chinese released it on purpose. If they did they wouldn't release it so the epicenter was right by the two BSL3+ labs in the world that hold the most batborn coronaviruses and are the world leaders in batborn coronaviruses GOF research. You would release it in a provice where the bats it "came" from live which is over a 1000 miles away from Wuhan.
I do believe it was an accidental lab leak. The virus has traits not seen in nature. It was instantly highly transmittable among humans which is also unprecedented. Animal viruses jump to humans all the time. Usually the outbreak stops at a few people or in the first person before it is registered because an animal born virus is not evolutionarily suited for human transfer. For example we contained SARS with far less drastic measures because it did not spread near as easily. The scientific and the circumstantial evidence on this one is damning yet Australia is the only nation who has come out hard for an investigation. The misinformation much of which has been disproved really makes China look like a nation trying to cover the leak and doing a bad job because they were in a state of panic.