The Obesification of the U.S.

Too much meat, fat and sugar.

Especially meat.

Meat.

Oh, the meat.

OP, tell us how amazing you feel at 64, please. We have never heard it before.

And don't forget to call me vegan :D

and don't forget to regale us with stories of Ancel Keys.

Pajac wrote:

Too much meat, fat and sugar.

Especially meat.

Meat.

Oh, the meat.

OP, tell us how amazing you feel at 64, please. We have never heard it before.

And don't forget to call me vegan :D

Looking at the graphs from USDA, since 1990, looks like pork, fish and seafood, grain and sweetener availability has stayed about the same, chicken availability is up about 20 lbs per person per year, beef availability is down about 10 lbs per person per year. For dairy, they don't have 1990 numbers, but the total is about the same as 1977 except cheese is up and milk is down.

meh

health movements are huge in america, and there's plenty of trim people everywhere. where I'm at pretty much everyone has layers of fat that technically don't count as obese but might as well be. dirty chubsters. and there's no health culture at all

Pajac wrote:

Too much meat, fat and sugar.

Especially meat.

Meat.

Oh, the meat.

OP, tell us how amazing you feel at 64, please. We have never heard it before.

And don't forget to call me vegan :D

It has nothing to do with meat. It’s too much sugar and lack of activity. There has been many studies where increasing sugar intake causes animals/people to overeat.

old news wrote:

Pajac wrote:

Too much meat, fat and sugar.

Especially meat.

Meat.

Oh, the meat.

OP, tell us how amazing you feel at 64, please. We have never heard it before.

And don't forget to call me vegan :D

It has nothing to do with meat. It’s too much sugar and lack of activity. There has been many studies where increasing sugar intake causes animals/people to overeat.

I know. I was just joking with the OP ;)

As a Californian there is 0 chance we are below 30percent.

old news wrote:

It has nothing to do with meat. It’s too much sugar and lack of activity. There has been many studies where increasing sugar intake causes animals/people to overeat.

I researched obesity about 15 years ago for a book project. I found a curious phenomenon. Once a group reaches the first stage of obesity, a certain percentage... it's a guess, but maybe 30%... DO NOT STOP GAINING WEIGHT. They continue to become severely obese and then morbidly obese.

At the time, I was looking at the long term effects on Medicare since obese seniors have... I forget the exact percentage and it's probably changed anyway... about 60% higher Medicare annual expenses than non-overweight weight seniors.

fisky wrote:

I researched obesity about 15 years ago for a book project. I found a curious phenomenon. Once a group reaches the first stage of obesity, a certain percentage... it's a guess, but maybe 30%... DO NOT STOP GAINING WEIGHT. They continue to become severely obese and then morbidly obese.

At the time, I was looking at the long term effects on Medicare since obese seniors have... I forget the exact percentage and it's probably changed anyway... about 60% higher Medicare annual expenses than non-overweight weight seniors.

What % of the obese actually make it to medicare age?

Amazing that the least obese state in 2018, Colorado, is still more obese than the most obese state in 1990, Mississippi.

No one is force feeding these people. Boredom and a sedentary lifestyle with a 64oz Coke in hand is on them. Don’t tell me it’s lack of education or inability to pay for “healthy food” either. That’s nothing but an excuse to keep doing the same thing over and over.

sugar tits wrote:

old news wrote:

It has nothing to do with meat. It’s too much sugar and lack of activity. There has been many studies where increasing sugar intake causes animals/people to overeat.

https://www.precisionnutrition.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/us-sugar-intake-vs.-obesity-prevalence.png

While that chart may be accurate (although the axis scales are misleading), it doesn't take into account artificial sweeteners. As a side note, the chart in the artificial sweetener article I am posting also uses the same axis for sugar and obesity, and kind of plays it fast and loose with the line for artificial sweeteners (the percentages don't precisely match up with either axis, and the line sometimes seems to go up when the percentage goes down. But if the figures are accurate, the point still holds true).

I am finding myself fascinated by this topic. There are so many causes. Income inequality, having to pay for after school sports, lack of bike and walking paths, food deserts, the rise of gaming/internet/netflix. Suburban sprawl, perhaps? And the pressures of social media, both for general depression and for making out of shape people more self conscious about exercising in public.

Exercising doesn't contribute to GDP. Pick-up basketball is free. Unhealthy people are great for GDP. The more you consume, the better, literally.

We don't measure quality of life as a goal, like Gross National Happiness/Health.

This has nothing to do with diet and EVERYTHING to do with exercise.

I'm 54, drink a bottle of wine with my wife every night, eat as much of anything that I want (I have a chocolate chip muffin every morning with coffee) and eat some form of meat with tortillas every night as we are a spanish culture. But I weigh 128lbs, still run under 17:50 for 5km regularly and run 30-40 miles per week.

I know this is per the individual, but my brothers do not exercise as much and weigh 160-180 lbs at my same height. My sister is like me and she is under 110lbs at 50.

It's all about lifestyle and exercise.

I will add the fall of social institutions like churches and the rise of isolation, loneliness and depression. Even arts programs like marching band, dance, and theater would have people moving around more but have been cut.

kalory wrote:

This has nothing to do with diet and EVERYTHING to do with exercise.

Myth. Clearly debunked.

Short answer:

Long answer:

Caloric intake has gone way up over the past 60 years. Has almost nothing to do with exercise.

kalory wrote:

This has nothing to do with diet and EVERYTHING to do with exercise.

I'm 54, drink a bottle of wine with my wife every night, eat as much of anything that I want (I have a chocolate chip muffin every morning with coffee) and eat some form of meat with tortillas every night as we are a spanish culture. But I weigh 128lbs, still run under 17:50 for 5km regularly and run 30-40 miles per week.

I know this is per the individual, but my brothers do not exercise as much and weigh 160-180 lbs at my same height. My sister is like me and she is under 110lbs at 50.

It's all about lifestyle and exercise.

Ah, the old letsrun "i'm blessed with talent, everyone else must be lazy response".

Love this place.