Donny Braz to Take Down a 34 Year Old World’s Best Tomorrow

he said he's very speed oriented. good luck and maybe he'll do some 400s in the future

mr. nice guy wrote:

he said he's very speed oriented. good luck and maybe he'll do some 400s in the future

He likes to think so, but that doesn't mean he is. 47.01 400m vs. 3:35 1500m.

that was aged 18-19

did a sub47 later indoors

I just wanna see if he'd put up a 45.5 or better, hopefully while looking 'like jogging'

What does he have to go through the 1/4 in?

^Another Johnny Gray record

With Wesley Vazquez in the field, Brazier should get out fast, under 24, and have a shot at the record. It is the equivalent of just under 24.3 pace per 200m. If he gets to 400m in 48 flat, he will have a great shot at it, as long as he doesn't go out under 23.

lkj wrote:

What does he have to go through the 1/4 in?

It’s 48.53 pace of course, but probably more like 47.1-47.5.

Here’s Rudisha running 1:13.10 leading the whole way and splitting 47.17:

Here’s Brazier running 1:13.77i splitting 48.08:

Here’s Brazier running conservatively before demolishing the field the last 200m early this year:

One very promising thing about this race is that Wesley Vazquez, who took the Doha WC final out in 48.99 is in the field. He ran 1:14.85 for 600 2 weeks ago in Puerto Rico.

I think he could even go 23.0 or slightly quicker to get the record, like 22.9-47.0(25.1)-1:12.5(25.5)

Bearer of Dad News wrote:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fupfR1K9rC0

^Another Johnny Gray record

LMAO xD

Tough record!

Rudisha couldn't get it.

Brazier is badass though!

Predict he just misses, but hope I'm wrong and that he smashes it!

Bearer of Dad News wrote:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fupfR1K9rC0

^Another Johnny Gray record

I am not particularly a country fan, but that is one sweet tune.

zxczxcv wrote:

With Wesley Vazquez in the field, Brazier should get out fast, under 24, and have a shot at the record. It is the equivalent of just under 24.3 pace per 200m. If he gets to 400m in 48 flat, he will have a great shot at it, as long as he doesn't go out under 23.

i don't care what kind of drugs he or anyone else is on, there is no running 72.8 off 48.0.

a 600 is much closer in terms of energy demands to a 400 than an 800. like another poster said, he's gotta be 47.5 or better to have a real chance.

jessen jeffla wrote:

zxczxcv wrote:

With Wesley Vazquez in the field, Brazier should get out fast, under 24, and have a shot at the record. It is the equivalent of just under 24.3 pace per 200m. If he gets to 400m in 48 flat, he will have a great shot at it, as long as he doesn't go out under 23.

i don't care what kind of drugs he or anyone else is on, there is no running 72.8 off 48.0.

a 600 is much closer in terms of energy demands to a 400 than an 800. like another poster said, he's gotta be 47.5 or better to have a real chance.

Agreed. Distance dweebs really show their ignorance when talking about a real man’s event.

jessen jeffla wrote:

i don't care what kind of drugs he or anyone else is on, there is no running 72.8 off 48.0.

a 600 is much closer in terms of energy demands to a 400 than an 800. like another poster said, he's gotta be 47.5 or better to have a real chance.

Lol so this is a guy that goes out in 49-mid for a fast 800. Two ways he can run this:

1. Go out in 48-flat and use as little energy as possible. Then blast home a 24.7 200.

2. Get out fast AF, like 47-low and then hold it together for about a 25.5 last 200.

For Rudisha I would say #2 is his best bet. For Brazier, a 47-low would probably cook him since his 400 speed is not at Rudisha's level. His 1500 is far superior. Def go for the smooth-AF 48 flat.

And also, that's exactly what he did in the indoor race when he went 1:14.

That's what he's gonna do tomorrow.

chllin369^2 wrote:

And also, that's exactly what he did in the indoor race when he went 1:14.

That's what he's gonna do tomorrow.

He says “in an ideal world” he’d go out in 47-high or 48-low in that World Athletics interview, so you may be right. I’m just not sure that’s how you break the 600 world’s best, when the 2 fastest times ever were run with 47-low openers. The fact that he split 48.08 when he ran 1:13.77i isn’t really evidence to the contrary, as it’s still a second off the outdoor mark.

I think he’ll break 1:13.0 if he’s 47.7 or faster at 400, and will not break 1:13.0 otherwise.

23-low/47-mid is the way for him to run the world’s best, I think.

He can do it!

On scale, for a 400/800 type it compares to a 1:42 mid performance. I would not say the record is soft, but it would be almost surely be a second faster if Rudisha had run the 600m around the time he was in 800m world record shape. From memory, Rudisha ran his 600m years after the 2012 Olympics during a time he was having intermittent injury problems and in that race he was pushed to the line by the. line by the French guy.; Donavan is better sprinter than both of those athletes.

With that said, the reason Gray has the record is it suited his personality and racing style. Gray trained with and hung out with a sprint group and had that sprinter's mentality of aggressiveness. Being that the 600m is not a race that is run often, not one knows for sure the best way to attack it, but you can't spend time trying to figure it out. Forget about pacers, splits, tactics and whatever, you have to take the lead from the gun / cut-in to the tape and go for it. You have to run it like a 400 which means you don't want to have any contact, stride shifting or passing. He cannot allow Vasquez or anyone to take the lead. There is a difference between trying to win a race and set a record. Donavan without a doubt is capable of breaking the record but in todays race, the moment he does not look aggressive, the record is out the door.

Let's hope the weather holds for him.

Right now it's rather windy here and it looks as if rain is on the way.