Kamala Harris is VP Pick

So your anecdotal evidence is very important, but 60 million voting Democrat in a supposed meaningless midterm doesn't indicate anything special?

There is a lot of motivation to get Trump out. His numbers are poor and there doesn't need to be a huge improvement over 2016 to beat him.

You make a good point about certain groups not voting, it just so happens a big part of those groups are the progressive younger voters who you say Biden will lose if he doesn't court them? Nah, he's better off cleaning up in the suburbs. Women he's miles ahead. Trump did well with Latinx voters in 2016, numbers have tanked.

I'm not naive, it's not about 'Hope and change'. I'm talking purely on the numbers and how I see it going.

Trump's only chance is massive voter supression. That's the only reason why anybody predicting can possibly give him a snowball's hope. He can't win if everybody who wants to vote, actually votes.

FOLKS, THIS IS A HARRIS THREAD.

IT IS NOT A TRUMP THREAD--WE ALREADY HAVE ONE OF THOSE.

PLEASE STICK TO THE THREAD TOPIC. THERE IS MUCH TO DISCUSS ABOUT HARRIS.

What a pile of mumbling nonsense.

Yes, I made a good point and it is THE point. Go back and try to find a first term Democrat that won the presidency without the progressive wings support. I'll wait.

You can discount my anecdotal evidence all you want, but it mirrors many others. There absolutely is larger support for Trump than folks realize.

I never said you were naive about 'hope and change' that was me. You are being naive thinking that people hate Trump enough to wait hours and hours in line (yes many polling places have extremely long waits due to voter suppression). And yes, voter suppression is the name of the game for the GOP if you were listening to anything I am saying it is that, the majority of people do not support the policies of the GOP but through voter suppression and apathy millions of Americans do not vote. Even right now, I give you reasons why and tell you I'll probably stay home and your answer is to continue to ignore folks like me. Like I said, hope and change aint coming, which is why folks like me wont vote and which is why Biden probably wont win.

Disagree all you want, get off on all the experts and numbers telling this or that. I remember when they said the same thing about Bush, everyone hates him no way he'll win again etc... Same thing with 2016 Hilary has a massive lead, yeah we all know how that turned out.

Maybe you had a point originally maybe you didn’t, but you seem to have lost your way completely.

If the Dems had gone with Sanders and a progressive VP you’d be squealing that they’re radical and won’t carry the moderates.

Nice troll. Thanks for attempting to add something to the discussion instead of single sentence you manage several this time so kudos to you.

No, I wouldn't be squealing about that. In fact I would probably be campaigning.

I think if Harris can a better job of courting he progressives than Biden has done so far they have a real shot. While most progressives do not see her as a progressive she has a fairly progressive track record in the senate. Its her experience as an AG that puts people off.

Jimmy Carter never had the left wing of Democrats support. It was a different time. There were many conservative Democrats in U.S. back in 1976. Carter won in D.N.C. 1976 caucus & primary process because left of center Democrats divided their votes among 1/2 a dozen or so left of center Democrats. Carter was right of center. 1976 was not an election that the left of center was a Democrat and right of center was a Republican. Leslie King Jr., b.k.a. Gerald Ford faced a backlash for pardoning Nixon.

Bingo. We have to go all the way back to the 70's. I guess some people think we are in the 70's much like Biden himself.

nope wrote:

Nice troll. Thanks for attempting to add something to the discussion instead of single sentence you manage several this time so kudos to you.

No, I wouldn't be squealing about that. In fact I would probably be campaigning.

I think if Harris can a better job of courting he progressives than Biden has done so far they have a real shot. While most progressives do not see her as a progressive she has a fairly progressive track record in the senate. Its her experience as an AG that puts people off.

Yeah just ignore the Supreme Court, Trumps “white power” tweets, his inhuman immigration policies and keep rattling on about progressive issues.

Democrats are united in their hatred of:

- Christians

- police

- military

- White people

- family values

- college football

Next time on "Are you smarter than a bag of rocks? " If America goes down, it will be because of lazy defeatist attitudes like this.

You thought taking a little power from the powerful was supposed to be easy? You thought you could move the needle by blowing on it for a few months? Newsflash.

You can live your whole life in a funk (a bad one, not the good George Clinton kind), or you can stand up and live as a man. (Or strong woman.)

political experts agree wrote:

Democrats are united in their hatred of:

- Christians

- police

- military

- White people

- family values

- college football

You forgot racists.

Jimmy Carter, an evangelical progressive, defeated Scoop Jackson much more of a centrist for the Democratic Party nomination.

Nice projection. I largely ignore politics at this point in my life, it is no defeatist to move on with your life when you realize there is no longer a point.

I am quite successful and happy with my life, thanks. My nice try thinking you know me based off a few points.

nope wrote:

Nice projection. I largely ignore politics at this point in my life, it is no defeatist to move on with your life when you realize there is no longer a point.

I am quite successful and happy with my life, thanks. My nice try thinking you know me based off a few points.

But but but but what about progressive issues (Supreme Court, racial equality and immigration).

As long are you’re doing well don’t you worry your progressive little head about others.

coach wrote:

See Jimmy Carter wrote:

Jimmy Carter never had the left wing of Democrats support. It was a different time. There were many conservative Democrats in U.S. back in 1976. Carter won in D.N.C. 1976 caucus & primary process because left of center Democrats divided their votes among 1/2 a dozen or so left of center Democrats. Carter was right of center. 1976 was not an election that the left of center was a Democrat and right of center was a Republican. Leslie King Jr., b.k.a. Gerald Ford faced a backlash for pardoning Nixon.

Jimmy Carter, an evangelical progressive, defeated Scoop Jackson much more of a centrist for the Democratic Party nomination.

Jimmy Carter was not against Confederate flag. Carter faced a challenge as a sitting president from Sen. Ted Kennedy, 1980. Carter campaign had to plead and beg Ted Kennedy to endorse Carter in 1980. Ted Kennedy did not really endorse. You cannot confuse the kind and gentle Jimmy Carter today building homes for people with conservative Jimmy Carter of 1970s. If McGovern /Ted Kennedy Democrats wanted Carter re-elected, Carter would have been re-elected. A lot of left of center Democrats stayed home in 1980. That is the issue Biden faces. The issue for Biden is not a strong Green Party candidate. Will left of center show up for Biden?

nope wrote:

The campaign he ran was quite progressive in many ways in rhetoric but also in the way it was conducted such as taking advantage of online media etc... The problem is that he didn't really deliver on the 'Hope and Change' he promised so progressives now in hindsight see him administration as mostly status quo.

What an incredibly vague answer. You make it sound as if just having a "Hope and Change" slogan and emphasizing social media promotion is somehow a progressive platform.

nope wrote:

I think if Harris can a better job of courting he progressives than Biden has done so far they have a real shot. While most progressives do not see her as a progressive she has a fairly progressive track record in the senate. Its her experience as an AG that puts people off.

The DNC gave AOC a 60 second prerecorded speaking slot at their conference. (Are they scared she is going to go off script?)

Meanwhile John Kasich, and Bill Clinton (yes foking Bill Clinton!) get full speaking slots.

Still think the Dems care about progressives?

The Unkle wrote:

usual low quality posts on lrc wrote:

Yeah, seriously WTF. Is this just something you throw out there anytime you see a woman in power? Must have slept their way to the top... What a total piece of garbage thing to say.

You are ignorant of her history.

This will help.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/kamala-harris-launched-political-career-with-120k-patronage-job-from-boyfriend-willie-brown

How did Trump get his start again?