Jim Walmsley going for Kilian Jornet's Hardrock 100 Record, by himself July 22nd

Jim can’t even touch Kilian’s WS100 record.... oh wait...

Walmsley has had the same two intrinsic faults from very early on, which are that he is undisciplined and impulsive. Those traits have gotten him jammed up numerous times since he was a kid and will continue to do so. Even after his troubles with the law and in the Department of Transportation, he has remained a kid.

He consistently goes out too fast. This 'I always go out fast' thing is ridiculous at his stage of career. He fails to pay attention to his nutrition. How many times will he have to fall apart late before he learns to race strategically? That problem goes WAY back. When he will learn to control himself and hold himself accountable? When will he surround himself with other than these goofballs who call themselves 'cowboys'?

He is a glimmer of what competitors like Jornet are. Jornet went through his self-destructive phase, which almost hot him killed, but he was still a kid. He is now prepared, trained, methodical. The other greats, the ones who last on the main stage, they are similarly NOT shooting from the hip and have their sh!t together. They tend toward maturity.

Coconino Cowboy Peter Pan could be one of the greats but he'll continue to fall short because he won't grow the fvck up.

Did you hear about Kilians cockamamie plan to beat Jim's record there? Oh wait...

Well said.

I would argue he couldn't pull off some of the records he has with your strategic methodology. The only way to achieve some of the things he has is by simply going for broke. He doesn't have the genetic advantages Killian has being such a small framed guy, so he simply would never be able to achieve the consistency Killian does no matter how hard or strategically he trained. There is no "correct" way to run, just do what works for you and enjoy any successes that come your way.

PNW RunnerFace wrote:

Jim can’t even touch Kilian’s WS100 record.... oh wait...

Beating your roommate you know you're faster than isn't impressive.

fre24 wrote:

I would argue he couldn't pull off some of the records he has with your strategic methodology. The only way to achieve some of the things he has is by simply going for broke. He doesn't have the genetic advantages Killian has being such a small framed guy, so he simply would never be able to achieve the consistency Killian does no matter how hard or strategically he trained. There is no "correct" way to run, just do what works for you and enjoy any successes that come your way.

This is nonsense.

WhyRegisterHere? wrote:

Walmsley has had the same two intrinsic faults.

His successes FAR outnumber his failures. Maybe you should post about how many of the top marathoners drop out of races that are barely over 2 hours long. (Kimetto, Bekele, half the elite field at Boston)

what was even the last time Jim blew up? the last two years he nailed almost all of his races. It's pretty disrespectful to bring up his past problems with the law, it's known now that he was suffering a lot during that time. and what's wrong with his training group? some of them have blown up during races too, but that's just their style. They won TNF 50, Transvulcania, UTCT to name some.

I realize now this entire board reflects the shortcomings of every single poster, projected onto anyone trying to do something they can no longer do.

just looked at garmin updates wrote:

WhyRegisterHere? wrote:

Walmsley has had the same two intrinsic faults.

His successes FAR outnumber his failures. Maybe you should post about how many of the top marathoners drop out of races that are barely over 2 hours long. (Kimetto, Bekele, half the elite field at Boston)

He has had successes. Yes. WS being his crowing achievement.

But most in the Ultra community don't really value them. People value the big race wins not stupid flat unofficial 50 mile records.

Similar to how people will value Galen Rupps olympic silver much more than these time trials Bowerman is running.

Still he is "young". I think he has alot of time to win these big races. He must adress his faults though.

fre24 wrote:

I would argue he couldn't pull off some of the records he has with your strategic methodology. The only way to achieve some of the things he has is by simply going for broke. He doesn't have the genetic advantages Killian has being such a small framed guy, so he simply would never be able to achieve the consistency Killian does no matter how hard or strategically he trained. There is no "correct" way to run, just do what works for you and enjoy any successes that come your way.

What are you talking about?

Many would argue that Jim is the most talented runner to run ultras.

Walmsley results:

2014 JFK 50 mile - 1st place

2015 50 mile - 1st place

2016 Bandera 100K - 1st place (Course Record)

2016 Moab Red Hot 55k - 1st place

2016 Lake Sonoma 50 - 1st place (Course Record)

2016 JFK 50 mile - 1st place (Course Record)

2017 Tarawera Ultramarathon - 1st place (Course Record)

2017 Gorge Waterfalls 100K - 1st place

2017 Kendall Mountain Run - 1st place

2017 Speedgoat 50K - 1st place

2017 UTMB - 5th place

2018 Lake Sonoma 50 - 1st place (Course Record)

2018 Western States 100 - 1st place (Course Record)

2019 Houston half-marathon - 27th place

2019 Hong Kong Fast 50 Ultra - 1st place

2019 Western States 100 - 1st place (Course Record)

2019 Ultravasan - 1st place

2020 US Olympic Marathon Trials - 22nd place

That's a pretty solid resume.

Also, Walmsley did not lie about climbing Everest twice in 24 hours.

This is dumb. Pay attention. Walmsley has matured a ton (not that he had to), and raced incredibly smart in 2019 - and really, it wasn't as fun... but smart.

You sound like the one with arrested development.

Piano_Man87 wrote:

Also, Walmsley did not lie about climbing Everest twice in 24 hours.

Killian has no reason to lie about that. He is not happy that he didn't get the record and his sponsors made a big deal about his second summit as being a different "record". That's why Killlian attempted to go back to Everest last year but the weather wasn't good enough.

Killian is still the best MUT runner on the planet until somebody proves otherwise.

Killian's biggest problem seems to be his suunto watch. I have one and it isn't the most accurate when it comes to elevation.

How many STRAVA segments did Jim bag on the Hardrock course? It had to be a bunch. Hasn't uploaded the run yet.

Yeah, sure no match for Kilian, right?

Selected results

Mountain running / skyrunning

2005:

1st, and 2nd in the combined ranking at the "Cuita al Sol" race (in Spain)

1st, and course record, Dôme de Neige des Écrins (in France)

2nd, "Cross Vertical", in Andorra

2nd, Prueba de Copa de España“ race, Buff-Salomon Vallnord

2006:

1st International Championship team race, SkyGames (FSA)

1st, French Championships of Mountainrunning, "junior" class race, FFA

6th, World Championship of Skyrunning

2007:

Champion of the year and four times 1st, Skyrunner World Series [38]

1st, Mount Ontake Skyrace (in Japan)

2nd, Orobie Skyrace team race (in Italy) together with Jordi Martin Pascual and Xavier Zapater Bargue

2008:

Champion of the year and three times 1st, Skyrunner World Series

1st, Ultra-Trail du Mont-Blanc

2009:

Champion, Skyrunner World Series

1st, 23rd Mt. Kinabalu Climbathon (in Borneo - Malaysia)

1st, Ultra Trail Andorra

1st, Ultra-Trail du Mont-Blanc

1st, Sierre-Zinal, Switzerland

2010:

3rd, Western States Endurance Run, California, USA

1st, Sierre-Zinal, Switzerland

1st, Grand Raid de la Réunion

2011:

1st, The North Face 100, Blue Mountains, Australia. Course Record

1st, Western States Endurance Run, California, USA

1st, Ultra-Trail du Mont-Blanc

2012:

1st, 26th Mt. Kinabalu Climbathon in Borneo, Malaysia(2:11:45)

1st, Pikes Peak Marathon, Colorado, USA.

1st, Grand Raid de la Réunion

2013:

1st, Transvulcania, Spain

1st, Zegama-Aizkorri, Spain

1st, Marathon du Mont Blanc, France

1st, Ice Trail Tarantaise, France

1st, Dolomites Vertical Kilometer, Italy

1st, Dolomites SkyRace, Italy

1st, Trans D'Havet, Italy

1st, Matterhorn Ultraks, Switzerland

1st, Limone SkyRace Extreme, Italy

Then World Record, Mount Kilimanjaro Ascent and combined Ascent/Descent (5:23:50, 7:14:00)

2014:

2nd, Transvulcania, Spain

1st, Zegama-Aizkorri, Spain

1st, Hardrock Hundred Mile Endurance Run, Colorado, USA. Course Record clockwise

1st, Marathon du Mont Blanc, Skyrunner World Championship, France

1st, Vertical Kilometer race, Skyrunner World Championship, France

1st, Sierre-Zinal, Switzerland

1st, Trofeo Kima, Italy

2015

1st, Mount Marathon Race, Alaska, USA. Then Course Record

1st, Hardrock Hundred Mile Endurance Run, Colorado, USA. Course Record counter-clockwise

1st, Ultra Pirineu, Bagà, Spain. Course Record

1st, Sierre-Zinal, Switzerland

2016

1st, Zegama-Aizkorri, Spain (8th victory)

1st, Hardrock Hundred Mile Endurance Run, Colorado, USA. Tie with Jason Schlarb (USA)

2017

1st, Marathon du Mont Blanc, France

1st, Hardrock Hundred Mile Endurance Run, Colorado, USA

1st, Sierre-Zinal, Switzerland

2nd, Ultra-Trail du Mont-Blanc

1st, Salomon Glen Coe Skyline, Scotland (course record)

2018

1st, Marathon du Mont Blanc, France

1st, Trofeo Kima, Italy

Fastest Known Time, Bob Graham Round, Lake District, England

1st, Sierre-Zinal, Switzerland

2019

1st, Zegama-Aizkorri, Spain

1st, Sierre-Zinal, Switzerland. New record on the course 2.25h

1st, Pikes Peak Marathon, Colorado, USA.

1st, The Finale Annapurna Trail Marathon, Nepal.

Climbing

2006: 2nd, International Championship SkySpeed Climb

Duathlon

2006:

1st Llívia duathlon race

1st Núria duathlon race

2007:

1st Núria-Queralbs Salomon Compex, "senior" class[39]

Ski mountaineering

2002:

2nd, Spanish Championship team race together with Gil Erra, "cadet" class

4th, Spanish Cup, "cadet" class

5th, Spanish Championship single race, "cadet" class

2003:

1st, Spanish Championship team race together with Jaume Guàrdia

2004:

1st, World Championship vertical race, "cadet" class

1st, Spanish Championship single race, "cadet" class

1st, Spanish Championship vertical race, "cadet" class

1st, Spanish Championship vertical race together with Aleix Pubill Rodríguez, "cadet" class

2nd, World Championship single race, "cadet" class

3rd, European Cup single race, "cadet" class

2005:

1st, European Championship vertical race, "cadet" class

1st, Spanish Championship single race, "cadet" class

1st, Spanish Cup (Spanish: Copa España) single race, "cadet" class

1st, European Cup single race, "cadet" class

1st, Spanish Championship team race together with Jordi Oliva

3rd, Spanish Championship vertical race

4th, Spanish Cup single race, "cadet" class

2007:

1st, European Championship single race, "junior" class

1st, European Championship vertical race, "junior" class

1st, European Championship relay race together with Mireia Miró Varela and Marc Pinsach Rubirola, "junior" class

1st, European Championship team race, "junior" class

1st, 20th "Traça Catalana"

2nd, Spanish Cup vertical race

2008:

1st, World Cup race in Valerette

1st, World Cup race in Massongex[40]

3rd, World Championship long distance race

3rd, World Championship relay race together with Javier Martín de Villa, Manuel Pérez Brunicardi and Marc Solá Pastoret

4th, World Championship vertical race

4th, World Cup single race in the Aran Valley

2009:

1st, European Championship vertical race

2nd, European Championship relay race together with Javier Martín de Villa, Joan Maria Vendrell Martínez and Manuel Pérez Brunicardi

5th, European Championship team race together with Javier Martín de Villa

2010:

1st, World Championship vertical race[41]

2nd, World Championship single race[42]

3rd, World Championship combination ranking[43]

4th, World Championship relay race (together with Javier Martín de Villa, Manuel Pérez Brunicardi and Marc Pinsach Rubirola)[44]

8th, World Championship team race (together with Marc Pinsach Rubirola)[45]

1st (espoirs), Trophée des Gastlosen (ISMF World Cup), together with Marc Pinsach Rubirola[46]

2011:

1st, World Championship single race

1st, World Championship vertical race

1st, World Championship vertical, combined ranking

4th, World Championship relay, together with Marc Pinsach Rubirola, Miguel Caballero Ortega, Javier Martín de Villa

8th, World Championship team race (together with Marc Pinsach Rubirola)

1st, Mountain Attack[47]

2012:

1st, European Championship vertical race

1st, World Championship vertical, combined ranking

2nd, European Championship single

4th, European Championship relay, together with Marc Pinsach Rubirola, Marc Solà Pastoret and Miguel Caballero Ortega

5th, European Championship team, together with Marc Pinsach Rubirola

1st and course record, Mountain Attack[48]

1st, Patrouille de la Maya, together with Valentin Favre and Alexis Sévennec-Verdier[49]

Pierra Menta

Main article: Pierra Menta

2008: 1st together with Florent Troillet

2010: 1st together with Florent Troillet

2011: 1st together with Didier Blanc

2012: 7th, together with Marc Pinsach Rubirola[50]

2016: 1st together with Matheo Jacquemoud

Patrouille des Glaciers

Main article: Patrouille des Glaciers

2010: 4th, together with Marc Solà Pastoret and Marc Pinsach Rubirola[51]

Trofeo Mezzalama

Main article: Trofeo Mezzalama

2011: 1st, together with William Bon Mardion and Didier Blanc[52]

2013: 2nd, together with William Bon Mardion and Mathéo Jacquemoud[53]

Then there is his Summits of my life project.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%ADlian_Jornet_Burgada

Look, no one is arguing Jim isn't fast. But he is no Kilian. The simple fact Jim is out trying to break one of Kilians times and not the other way around should tell you something.

just looked at garmin updates wrote:

Piano_Man87 wrote:

Also, Walmsley did not lie about climbing Everest twice in 24 hours.

Killian has no reason to lie about that. He is not happy that he didn't get the record and his sponsors made a big deal about his second summit as being a different "record". That's why Killlian attempted to go back to Everest last year but the weather wasn't good enough.

Killian is still the best MUT runner on the planet until somebody proves otherwise.

Killian's biggest problem seems to be his suunto watch. I have one and it isn't the most accurate when it comes to elevation.

If Walmsley beats Jornet's time on Hard Rock, then we can no longer say Jornet is the best in the world.

There is no evidence Jornet summited Everest. If he wants to go back to prove the doubters wrong, that doesn't make sense. Going with no camera was a matter of "style" for him. But now his style is to go with a camera to prove he can do it? Seems like a lack of foresight to me.

Jornet is an entirely different class of athlete than Walmsley. That a couple of posters think otherwise is deluded. Walmsley is a nice, American mountain guy who makes a lot of youtube videos to monetize himself. Jornet has been destroying mountains and courses everywhere on the planet for quite a few years now, and is a world-class competitor in multiple disciplines.

Jornet FTW by a lot.