This is the MOST disturbing police brutality video I’ve ever seen!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Arriving late on the scene wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

You don't have to look far. They appear like maggots in these threads.

Where's your outrage on this one?

https://www.deadlinedetroit.com/articles/25345/toledo_mother_charged_in_detroit_crash_that_killed_two_of_her_three_children

That's awful, I'm glad she was charged and I wouldn't want her to be a police officer.

Now back to the topic at hand.

That dude was tall and jacked as hell. I wonder what went down prior to filming. Also I get the neck on knee is bad, but it didn't look like he was using much Force. The back guy could breathe (kept talking for minutes) and was able to move his head around throughout the video. I wonder what actually killed him. Overdose, heart attack from the stress????

Strange that you keep using different handles to falsely claim that one can't suffocate if they are talking and implying a death from overdose.

curious Jeremy wrote:

That dude was tall and jacked as hell. I wonder what went down prior to filming. Also I get the neck on knee is bad, but it didn't look like he was using much Force. The back guy could breathe (kept talking for minutes) and was able to move his head around throughout the video. I wonder what actually killed him. Overdose, heart attack from the stress????

Dude. He was arrested for forgery, and killed by a police officer. “I wonder what he said/did/acted like before the video” goes back to the Arbery case of automatically (even if unintentionally) assigning blame to the victim.

those guys in blue had dead eyes, soulless, non-human, but the saddest part is the new training results in this behavior, they teach these brain dead pieces of shiit that everyone is a terrorist. this is the result of following orders/instructions/sop

As some note with regard to investigation/prosecution in the Arbery case, an objective observer needs to be "fact-centric", necessitating impartial assessment of all evidence available.

One should also be mindful "racists" aren't the only posters here pushing prejudicial agendae.

Yes, Video posted to social media of Floyd's death is missing context. But it's so shocking and plain, there's nothing inconclusive about it.

What unknown circumstance or evidence could possibly exist exonerating the officer mercilessly kneeling on Floyd's neck?

Initial police contact with Floyd was also captured on security cameras - and the portion of that available appears to show no violence or resistance.

Even should a knee on the neck be deemed necessary and consistent with police training/procedure, according to one expert, and clear to anyone with a shred of decency, that should have stopped long before EMTs arrived:

"Always when you’re using force, you only want to use it until you need to stop the threat," [the police training expert] said. "If he's not moving anymore, he's not resisting, then you let up totally

It's also disingenuous for police and others to state Floyd died later, in an Ambulance or hospital. He might have been declared dead then, but it seems probable death occurred on the sidewalk.

https://kstp.com/news/police-training-expert-speak-on-fatal-minneapolis-incident-may-26-2020/5741911/

https://www.tmz.com/2020/05/27/surveillance-footage-before-george-floyd-killed-minneapolis-not-resisting/

el hombre wrote:

Dude. He was arrested for forgery, and killed by a police officer. “I wonder what he said/did/acted like before the video” goes back to the Arbery case of automatically (even if unintentionally) assigning blame to the victim.

It's not blaming the victim and saying he deserved to die, nor is it exonerating the officer.

It's simply trying to get a complete picture of what transpired to see what might have motivated the officer's actions. Going with the easy/trendy explanation of "RACISM!", and shouting down anyone who simply asks questions as a racist (not saying you've done this, but many do), doesnt actually help in understanding what occurred and why.

You, like most people here can never seem to condemn a person or situation without also condemning those who are victims or have nothing to do with anything.

The officer can be seen repositioning himself to put his knee in "the right spot" quite a few times. So whether it was bad training, racism, or idiocy, you can't deny that he was intentionally putting his knee in a specifc spot on purpose. The mere fact that he kept his knee there even after the man was unresponsive is telling enough.

The fact that he wasn't resisting prior to being on the ground doesn't help either.

When you watch the video, at no point is he offering any resistance that merits the tactic being used (especially considering he’s already handcuffed). Asking what happened before the video is absolutely victim blaming as it doesn’t matter. He’s subdued and in custody and no matter what happened before the video (jaywalking, forgery, shooting), he’s not posing a threat to anyone and the officer is causing him undue distress and harm.

curious Jeremy wrote:

That dude was tall and jacked as hell. I wonder what went down prior to filming. Also I get the neck on knee is bad, but it didn't look like he was using much Force. The back guy could breathe (kept talking for minutes) and was able to move his head around throughout the video. I wonder what actually killed him. Overdose, heart attack from the stress????

There are plenty of situations where you can still talk AND breathe to an extent while you're choking. I don't understand where you get the idea that he wasn't using much force when the cop was specifically trying to "subdue" him. I also don't see how being tall and "jacked" affects anything. You can stop blood flow to someone's brain with your thumb let alone a knee with the weight of an adult male attached to it.

reer wrote:

el hombre wrote:

Dude. He was arrested for forgery, and killed by a police officer. “I wonder what he said/did/acted like before the video” goes back to the Arbery case of automatically (even if unintentionally) assigning blame to the victim.

It's not blaming the victim and saying he deserved to die, nor is it exonerating the officer.

It's simply trying to get a complete picture of what transpired to see what might have motivated the officer's actions. Going with the easy/trendy explanation of "RACISM!", and shouting down anyone who simply asks questions as a racist (not saying you've done this, but many do), doesnt actually help in understanding what occurred and why.

You discount racism as being a factor because you think it only looks a certain way. Racism doesn't have to be so blatant that you can always call it out.

curious Jeremy wrote:

I wonder what actually killed him. Overdose, heart attack from the stress????

And seriously? Overdose? Heart attack from the stress (of being choked out)? Maybe it was Ant Man stopping his heart from the inside!!

When you hear hoof prints, think horses. Not zebras or thinly veiled racism (intentional or otherwise). If you don’t think your response is racist, consider taking a few moments to wonder why others would think it is.

Jim Gaffigan wrote:

There are plenty of situations where you can still talk AND breathe to an extent while you're choking. I don't understand where you get the idea that he wasn't using much force when the cop was specifically trying to "subdue" him. I also don't see how being tall and "jacked" affects anything. You can stop blood flow to someone's brain with your thumb let alone a knee with the weight of an adult male attached to it.

Dude, you probably have never been in a RNC or a headscissors. If you get choked hard with the RIGHT technique, it's lights out after 5-10s and you certainly wouldn't be able to get a single word out. If the other person holds the choke for 1-3 mins after you already passed out, you are dead.

This was NOTHING like that. He merely put his knee on his neck. If he died, it either had another reason or something else happened before the kneeling, like maybe a hard punch in his stomach. That would explain the stomach pain and inability to breathe, but not the kneeling position.

They need to release body cam footage ASAP to clear this up, for anyone involved.

When you posted this, there was already a video out showing the intial confrontation all the way up until he was lying on the ground. They didn't have to subdue him forcefully to say the least and I'm pretty sure the cause of death.

- The police said the man was found sitting on top of a blue car and “appeared to be under the influence.”

“He was ordered to step from his car,” the department’s statement said. “After he got out, he physically resisted officers.

Does any of that happen in this video?

https://nypost.com/2020/05/27/video-does-not-appear-to-show-george-floyd-resisting-arrest/?utm_source=NYPFacebook&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&sr_share=facebook&utm_medium=SocialFlow&fbclid=IwAR3UBgQpG8-a5RIcDiWl5HToSVJ0b84DdMThsPNCE8gcZln-9fZOP-pJLTI

Are you really saying that there is no chance that he suffocated because the method of suffocation wasn't as efficient as what professional MMA fighters use? As if there are no other ways to suffocate more slowly?

Seen enough of these videos with cops standing around watching their partners kill....

Do the police have any reason to deserve an ounce of our trust anymore?

Malicious intent everywhere. Something about power corrupting...

Nonayme wrote:

Dude, you probably have never been in a RNC or a headscissors. If you get choked hard with the RIGHT technique, it's lights out after 5-10s and you certainly wouldn't be able to get a single word out. If the other person holds the choke for 1-3 mins after you already passed out, you are dead.

This was NOTHING like that. He merely put his knee on his neck. If he died, it either had another reason or something else happened before the kneeling, like maybe a hard punch in his stomach. That would explain the stomach pain and inability to breathe, but not the kneeling position.

They need to release body cam footage ASAP to clear this up, for anyone involved.

Glad we have the MMA dudes to explain that cops killed the innocent guy a different way after ignoring his calls for help.

Even if you are right, even “minimal” pressure with that knee with the victim in duress could’ve led to his death. It’s entirely possible the cop caused a myocardial infarction. I’m glad the cops lost their jobs here. The guy applying the pressure, especially, should be tried for 2nd degree murder, even if he pleads down. This was inexcusable. I get that it’s hard not to become calloused as a cop, especially in an inner city, but, this guy was cuffed and subdued already. Good God.

Natt Turner wrote:

To me it’s worse than Rodney King and even the several videos of cops shooting unarmed black men in the back. It’s truly SICKENING!!! It stands out because you can see the life slowly leave this mans body. The victim and several bystanders begged this evil son of a b*tch cop to lift his knee off his neck. This is bad...really bad!!

I did not read past the first post so excuse me if this has been covered.

If this is the MOST disturbing police video recorded, imagine the thousands, maybe even millions that have NOT been videoed!