Jakob Ingebrigtsen World Record in Steeple Chase? 2 Mile vs Steeple: 1.99 Second difference

He probably could get if he focused on it for a while but I think the flat wrs would be more impressive and more in his wheelhouse. He might be able to run 750 steeple but sub 1230 5k would be huge, might be able to break 26 in 10k, break 1500m/mile WRs. All depends on where he wants to put his energy

Do it right after Track & Field Worlds at end of August? Early September?

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I wouldn't be surprised if he runs 7:49 for the 3000st with only a couple of specific sessions. He is flying in XC with no specific training at all, he practiced the steeple with success when younger, he is quite tall (1m86) and he has 7:20 3000 speed.

If he really cared and focused on the steeple for years (but he has better to do) I think he would run 7:45.

Why mess around with lame events like that? Just for a legit 1:59 'thon!

Then shock the world with a sub 19 200.

Cause white men can't jump

Nike: Just Do It!

Or is that phrase still popular?

No cause they eat a lot of cheeses.

He’d be better off going for the 3000m flat record. With these spikes and the wavelight, he should be able to run 7:19.

Yeah. I am sure he has the 3000 Meter record on the to-do-list. So, why not the 3000 Meter Steeple chase at the end of the year as a non-stress-just for fun-challenge-cross train :)

I just remember seeing him run the Steeple when he was under 20 years old and winning. So, I thought it would be a no-brainer if he wanted to do it...Maybe he reminds me of Henry Rono back in the day...I have watched some of his interviews lately and I don't think anyone has asked him about the Steeple...

What do you say Jakob?

Even better.

He might as well add to his collection of B-level records.

That's how you know he knows he will NEVER break 3:26.00 or 12:35. Not one A-level, major distance record to his name, and there never will be.

Since this old thread has resurfaced I will take the opportunity to show how you could have answered your questions if you had done a bit research (in the right way).

1. Are the times for 3000m SC and the 2 miles close? Not at all!

Check the all time list the 3000m SC and see if you can find a top steeple chaser who has run faster than 10 sec from his steeple chase time in the 2 miles. Most top steeplers haven´t even run a 2 miles. The first I could find was Paul Koech who ran 7:54.31 in the SC and 8:06.48 in ther 2 miles. His 2 miles time relatively weaker but far from so weak that the time gap could be explained.

2. So Jakob´s low 7:54 doesn´t indicate that he could run around that time in the SC. It indicates that he can run significantly faster than that in the SC.

But it is more easy to see if we compare the SC times to the 3000m ones which I will do in my next post.

Running a 7:50, or faster Steeple,is not a non-stress-just for fun-challenge-cross train. I never ran a Steeple but I have no doubt that is a punishing event to run.

Further to my above post # 17:

3. What is the relation between the 3000m and the 3000m SC for the toprunners?

See the alltime list for the 3000m SC :

worldathletics.org

3000 Metres Steeplechase - men - senior - all

Open link

The technically very best steeplers Shaheen and El Bakkali ran 21.17 sec and 22:81 respectively slower in the SC than the 3000m. Shaheen´s 3000m time is possibly a bit weak so the difference should possibly be some seconds bigger.

WR holder Girma who isn´t considered a technically good steepler runs 28.30 slower in the SC than in the 3000m.

4. How much slower could Jakob be in the SC than in his 3000m? If we cautiously add 30 sec to his 7:17.55 WR time he would run 7:47.55 and break the SC WR with 4.5 sec.

I, however, think the gap will be less than 30 possibly more like 28 sec (as in Girma´s case) so a SC wr in about mid 7:45.

Do we know anything about an actual difference between a 3000m and a SC time for Jakob?

Yes we do!

In 2017 - at age 16 - he ran 8:00 in the 3000m and 8:26.81 in the SC. So at that time the difference was just under 27 sec ON PAPER.

I, however, think he could have run faster in both races. The 3000m was run in a national youth champs where he also ran a 400m (in 51) the same day so I would guess he could have run around 5 sec faster if he had competition. The SC was run 2 days (including an airtravel day) after a 13:49 in the 5000m in a race which he won. So I think he could have run 2 sec faster time with better preparation and in a better field.

So at the age of 16 the adjusted difference would probably be around 30 sec equal to at least 28 sec today where he is so much faster (as you run faster the gap will everything equal decrease).

5. So the answer to your main question is: Yes, he can certainly - barring illness and injury - break the 3000m SC WR. The only question is with how many seconds? I guess with around 6-7.