Steeplechase conversion?

Just run one and find out!

Seriously, the time can vary greatly due to form and jumping technique- you could lose up to 1 second per barrier- 35 seconds total. The world's best only lose 20-25 seconds. You want a straight conversion? Start with 1.07. Your 2 mile time will also give you an idea but that is a little bit off on the slow side.

The 3k steeplechase should take about as long as the 3200m run, provided of course that you are competent at the hurdles. If it's your first steeple it will obviously be slower. Most runners I know make about that comparison, and you can see it holds true even for world class athletes by comparing the records (steeplechase: 7:53 WR, 8:08 AR, 2-mile: 7:55 WR, 8:11 AR).

If you are talking about your self and you are new to the steeple then the 2 mile conversion is not that great. It will probably be a lot more than your 2 mile because the steeple is a lot different than the flat 3k/ 2mile. And people tend to be not very good at it at first. So if you get good at it, the 2 mile is a pretty good conversion and if you get GREAT at it then it will be it might be faster than your 2 mile.

So yeah the conversion differs greatly from person to person especially if you are new to the event

My 2 cents as a steepler.

Ok, thanks.

Actually, I'm a post-collegiate steeplechaser and I'm planning on running unattached this indoor season. I'm bumping up from the mile and have never run a 3k so I'm trying to figure out a legit entry time.

Individual times will of course vary, but a good starting point is to shoot for your two mile time.

Just an FYI the steeple is not an indoor event....

All kidding aside, i would use my 2 mile time. I had run steeple for a couple of years and so my form was getting decent. For your first steeple i would add 1.5 seconds per barrier 52-53 seconds

If you're naturally coordinated and don't have a lot of trouble with stutter-stepping when you get tired, it's likely your steeple will ultimately be faster than your 2M, by as much as 10s. It's likely that your first steeple will be about 10s slower than your current 2M, assuming you've put some work in on barriers before the race.

A good drill is 800 repeats with one lap over the barriers and one flat (put the barriers in lane 2 out). Alternate doing the barrier lap first/second. Use the barriers and not hurdles (you need to get relaxed about clearing immovable barriers or you are likely to stutter in races).

A good water jump drill is to put the barrier at the end of the LJ runway and mark the pit distance in the sand. Work on accelerating into the barrier so that your second foot clears the line just by leaning forward and rolling out of the landing. If you are 'reaching for it', you'll basically stop and have to make an effort to regain pace. No big deal in laps 1-2... big problem in laps 5-7.

Landing in the sand is way easier on your legs/achilles tendons than doing the water jump itself, so you can get more repetitions in and get good auto-programming of the task, so that it just happens rather than thinking it out.

Everyone is saying 2mile time is a good starting point makes me feel bad. I trained for steeple all season last year for the first time, went into my first race and ran 9:50. My 2mile time at the time was 9:10. It was windy and wet but I don’t understand people’s perspective that just cus you run a 9:00 2mile which is an okay but not great time, means your gonna run a nearly national qualifying 9:00 in the steeple. And damn was that 9:50 one of the hardest races of my life in such a different way. Ide expect a minute jump from your 3k if your running in less than perfect conditions for your first steeple.

Everyone is WRONG. Not a starting point by any means. Only if you are an exceptional steeplechaser will you be anywhere near your 2 mile time.