DJT indicted on four counts related to January 6

Running out of tinfoil wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

He kept more promises than any other politician in the last 40+ years despite Democrats obstructing every move he made.

Your open border policies aren't popular with anyone but lily white liberals and the cartels. And the country has noticed how unhinged the lily white liberals get when the brown people make it to their communities.

He works two years with a Rep House & Senate, and you speak of Dem “obstruction.”

His “victories”? Tax cuts that literally any Rep president would have gotten. Conservative judges that literally any Republican President would have gotten. Being part of fast-tracking a vaccine his base can’t stand.

Building <20 miles of wall per year and having Mexico pay for 0% of it is a glass half full at best in terms of a promise kept. The metaphorical “wall” of immigration policy and crackdown was the same (narrow-minded “tough” stance with draconian measures chips away at US moral stance not only nationally but internationally, policy toward students and professionals robs US economy of a % of potential key contributors).

I guess you can call his tariff/trade policy a promise kept, in the sense that he promised to do something likely to harm American farmers and workers, then he did just that.

And people like you act as though his assaults on norms are met with mere “pearl clutching” by people who just don’t like “mean tweets.” You ignore the incredibly long list of lifelong Republicans who call him a serious threat (not only to the political climate but to the rule of law). Those people don’t like Dem policies. People like Judge Luttig aren’t looking to get back in power or to cash in from the MI complex. But you act as though they all just want power, so your preferred option is the guy who’s always trying to play the angle and game the system for himself.

Look at how he taunts judges and prosecutors. You see the timeline and the actions (inactions) of the documents case, even against the advice of counsel. In all of the information before you, he clearly can’t refrain from pushing boundaries, lying, and refusing to adhere to the rules. Unable to trust your own lying eyes, you’re convinced that all of the texts and emails from his previously loyal staffers (e.g., about “conspiracy s**t beamed down from the mothership”) are easily dismissed, his 0-63 record in court is solely due to technicalities like standing, and that the absence of evidence is just a minor delay, and it’s coming, just like his health care plan, his infrastructure plan, and all those pesos from south of the border. He’s the guy whose greatest hit on the campaign trail was “lock her up” in one election; he literally called for investigation of an opponent 2 weeks before the next election. You don’t bat an eye at that (and probably cheered him on), but when he commits crimes to the extent that his own former AG calls the case strong and numerous Republican lifelong nat sec personnel call his actions a serious security threat, you’re appalled that anyone would bring charges (and the selective prosecution argument on that has been thoroughly rebutted).

An enormous but seldom discussed problem is one way he really messed over his supporters. They correctly diagnosed problems with both parties and said, “We hate you so much we’re riding with this guy.” Sure, they gained some clout that they still hold. But if he had acted halfway like a normal human being, they could have gotten 10x as much in returns on policies they like and the future of a party poised to serve their interests well. But he had to cultivate and maintain his symbiotic relationship with the Q sorts and spend the vast majority of his time feeding his ego and letting his impulses run amok. So now in the back of the heads of lots of party elites is one recurring thought: “See? These rubes can’t be trusted.”

These are only a representative sample, with some of the lowlights, about this guy. There’s so, so much more

It’s not inconceivable that you might have one or two good points in reply. It’s certain that his political opponents are flawed. Any arguments you’ve made or could make, however, are — at best — just an object lesson in missing the forest for the trees.

I will say this, though: If he does in fact provide “irrefutable evidence” of voter fraud seemingly on a scale to have a meaningful impact on state vote counts, I will change my tune to whatever extent the evidence dictates. Can I expect that you’ll see him as a fraud if his promised evidence is far from “irrefutable”?

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Noyankee wrote:

Yes. the country is under siege from Communists executing a coup on American Democracies. better wake up people. this last nut job is a county district attorney filing a statewide criminal charge that no other county District Attorney in the entire State or Georgia signed off on. not 1. stop three mofos folks do not be stupid, do not bend to their demands.

you think it stops here? these are bloodsuckers we are up against. a real coup is underway. no doubt this lunatic from Atlanta is Soros endorsed but it gets much worse

you best thank the good lord himself that an American as strong as Trump is the target

Strong? Strong people aren't compulsive liars. Strong people pay their bills and pay their taxes. Strong people support marginalized communities. Strong people protect the weak. Strong people stand up against *REAL* injustice. Strong people don't legitimize sexual assault. Your guy is the exact opposite of this. You're guy is the epitome of weak. His first week in prison will prove it. Also, please educate yourself on what communism actually is, because you clearly are just parroting what you hear from your lunatic right news "networks," and you sound ridiculous.