Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

White supremacism is becoming a bigger thing because liberals are blaming whites for every problem in the world, and some people just don't handle that kind of abuse as well as I do. If you treat people like crap as a group then don't be surprised when they band together to fight you.

Oh, I get it, violence by white supremacists is the fault of left wingers, NOT the white supremacists, and/or those that give voice and comfort to many of their views (like the President himself)?

And I am going to "pull a Gary" here, and say - 'everyone, pay close attention'-Gary is actually attempting to rationalize/excuse/justify the murders just committed by this lunatic Florida dude and others associated with white supremacy (Dylan Roof) and maybe even sympathize a little with their actions. This Cruz "kid" joined a white supremacist group and liked to wear M-A-G-A hats and spew insults against blacks and muslims on-line (apparently), so he obviously ID'd with these groups' philosophy. Gary's response?

Whites have been blamed for every problem, so they are mad, recruiting liked minded people, grouping together, and "fighting back," can you blame them?

Really Gary?

Then why don't you have the same attitude concerning minorities that have faced decades, hell centuries, of being "blamed for every problem in the world", and who have actually been beaten, tortured, murdered (not just called names or "blamed" for things) because of, not their viewpoints, but their skin color, or gender, or religion ?? Why if they "fight back" (let's say kill some police officers, or maybe shoot whitey) don't you say "well, can you blame them" ??

I don't think you want to go there.

Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

White supremacism is becoming a bigger thing because liberals are blaming whites for every problem in the world, and some people just don't handle that kind of abuse as well as I do. If you treat people like crap as a group then don't be surprised when they band together to fight you.

Oh, I get it, violence by white supremacists is the fault of left wingers, NOT the white supremacists, and/or those that give voice and comfort to many of their views (like the President himself)?

And I am going to "pull a Gary" here, and say - 'everyone, pay close attention'-Gary is actually attempting to rationalize/excuse/justify the murders just committed by this lunatic Florida dude and others associated with white supremacy (Dylan Roof) and maybe even sympathize a little with their actions. This Cruz "kid" joined a white supremacist group and liked to wear M-A-G-A hats and spew insults against blacks and muslims on-line (apparently), so he obviously ID'd with these groups' philosophy. Gary's response?

Whites have been blamed for every problem, so they are mad, recruiting liked minded people, grouping together, and "fighting back," can you blame them?

Really Gary?

Then why don't you have the same attitude concerning minorities that have faced decades, hell centuries, of being "blamed for every problem in the world", and who have actually been beaten, tortured, murdered (not just called names or "blamed" for things) because of, not their viewpoints, but their skin color, or gender, or religion ?? Why if they "fight back" (let's say kill some police officers, or maybe shoot whitey) don't you say "well, can you blame them" ??

I don't think you want to go there.

kibitzer wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Mueller is reportedly filing more charges against [Manafort]. It's possible that Gates is putting the screws to [Manafort], which makes [Manafort] more likely to cooperate as well.

Yes, but what I gleaned (from the story that was linked a few posts above) is that this all relates to stuff that happened before the Trump campaign.

Seems pretty clear that Manafort (and Gates) will go down; not at all clear that their going down will have a significant impact on Trump or his campaign.

...Which is the way I like it. As I've said before, I want DJT to serve his full four or eight years. He's just a blowhard, like me, and people eventually learn to deal with that. What I *don't* want is Pence in the Oval Office; I shudder (literally) at the thought.

But the USA has a strong system and will survive, regardless. We survived eight years of Bill Clinton, eight years of G. W. Bush, and eight years of Barack Obama; we'll survive eight (or four) years of Donald Trump, and we can survive a Pence interregnum if necessary.

nontrumper wrote:

kibitzer wrote:

Yes, but what I gleaned (from the story that was linked a few posts above) is that this all relates to stuff that happened before the Trump campaign.

Seems pretty clear that Manafort (and Gates) will go down; not at all clear that their going down will have a significant impact on Trump or his campaign.

...Which is the way I like it. As I've said before, I want DJT to serve his full four or eight years. He's just a blowhard, like me, and people eventually learn to deal with that. What I *don't* want is Pence in the Oval Office; I shudder (literally) at the thought.

But the USA has a strong system and will survive, regardless. We survived eight years of Bill Clinton, eight years of G. W. Bush, and eight years of Barack Obama; we'll survive eight (or four) years of Donald Trump, and we can survive a Pence interregnum if necessary.

It was a VERY bad week for Trump. Very bad.

Gates officially flipping, as has been rumored for a month or so, is BIG news. He can connect the dots with Russian money laundering. It's not just about Manafort despite the response from the WH.

Bannon talking with Mueller for 20 hours this week is BIG news. Mueller already knows the answers to his questions and I'm sure Bannon is fully aware that he cannot lie to Mueller.

Corallo spoke with Mueller's team for over 2 hours this week. Not as big as Gates and Bannon, but it's all part of the puzzle.

BAD week for Trump.

foo wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

I'd put it sometime in the 1980s.

Look at where we are now. If things are so bad then why are we talking about "micro-aggressions" and trying to lay blame on white people with "white privilege"? It's because liberals can't find enough real racism to keep the racial victim fires burning.

White people are simply not holding minorities down and no matter many times the Big Lie is repeated it doesn't make it true. Think about it. Where is it happening today? No where. It's all a Big Lie.

Disco, if you think racism ended in the 1980's, please read this book:

https://www.amazon.com/Just-Mercy-Story-Justice-Redemption/dp/081298496X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1518800328&sr=8-1&keywords=mercy+book

It takes place in the late 80's and early 90's and is about death row inmates in Alabama. The racism is incredibly blatant and obvious at every step of the law enforcement/judicial process. I had a hard time believing that this kind of behavior was occurring in my lifetime. Innocent people were given life sentences simply because of the dark color of their skin. The things you are talking about are minutiae compared to this.

DiscoGary wrote:

foo wrote:

Disco, if you think racism ended in the 1980's, please read this book:

https://www.amazon.com/Just-Mercy-Story-Justice-Redemption/dp/081298496X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1518800328&sr=8-1&keywords=mercy+book

It takes place in the late 80's and early 90's and is about death row inmates in Alabama. The racism is incredibly blatant and obvious at every step of the law enforcement/judicial process. I had a hard time believing that this kind of behavior was occurring in my lifetime. Innocent people were given life sentences simply because of the dark color of their skin. The things you are talking about are minutiae compared to this.

I'll grant you that one. I don't like the death penalty and this is one of the reasons. I also don't like jail sentences handed out for drug use, because that gets abused too and hits black people harder and I can't imagine how sending someone on drugs to jail makes society better.

In the bigger analysis though, it's the tremendous amount of crime in the black community which is holding blacks down, not the problems in our justice system once they get caught up in it. White people are not causing all that crime. Black communities like certain areas in Chicago with high murder rates need to clean themselves up and no amount of blaming white people will do it because racism has nothing to do with it.

Micheal Brown's problem was not that he was black, it was that he beat on a cop, tried to steal his gun, and then charged the cop. That has nothing to do with racism.

Also, there are studies showing that cops are LESS likely to shoot a black person than a white one, no matter what anecdotal evidence is being fed to us by the MSM.

I still don't see the systematic oppression of minorities. It isn't there.

Lolly Pop wrote:

OK, now this seriously had me laughing out loud just now. Scumbag Adam Schiff, trying to convince people that it's the Russians that are at the root of division in America. The Russians.

Never mind the fact that politics in the US is based on a two-party, us-vs-them, divide and conquer system. A system that drives a near 50-50 split on every issue down party lines. A system that almost seems to seek out the most obvious divisions ("identity") and bases entire political strategies around them. A system that has allowed its politicians (both sides) to be truly owned by corporate lobbyists, with the main goal of re-election. I could go on and on.....but, yeah

Yeah, it's the Russians though. So funny. How this guy can look in the mirror in the morning has me dumbfounded.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/02/16/rep_adam_schiff_talks_russia_probe_at_council_on_foreign_relations.html