Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

DiscoGary wrote:

It wasn't Brazille. Brazille was the one who wrote a book explaining how Hillary stole the primary from Bernie and ran the DNC like a mafia boss. I got that mixed up. The book "Shattered" written by Allen and Parnes revealed that Hillary invented the Russian collusion scandal within 24 hours of losing

So I was right. Brazille never said that.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you got mixed up and were not lying.

But you still have to be a moron to believe that Hillary cooked up the collusion scandal after the election. There were lots of press reports about possible collusion well before the election. And we know that the FBI had already been investigating this stuff for months and months before the election.

You can do better Gary. This is pathetic.

No where in that article does Obama say Russia didn't hack/interfere in election. He said they did not see evidence of vote tampering. Those are two different things. In the article he basically acknowledges that the Russians did attempt to interfere (and have in the past).

Also from the article: "He also criticized President-elect Donald Trump for calling on the Russian government to hack Hillary’s emails to reveal the contents of the deleted emails from her private server, and reminded the audience that Trump had campaign officials connected to Russia."

Hardloper wrote:

obvious problem wrote:

The special counsel was set up to look into Russian interference in the election. Something Trumpers deny happened.

No one has been denying that. Like I told you several pages ago, all countries try to influence each other's elections and this one was no different. Why did you ignore it?

Ok, I had some time so I flipped back through 30 pages. You never said that.

DiscoGary said it however.

And he/you still hasn’t explained how the Comey letter fits the conspiracy narrative of government agencies corrupted by democrats.

Because you can’t.

Go on. Try

What does it matter?

The White House administration is proposing to replace food stamps with actual food.

The government will reduce fund on their SNAP cards, shop for them and supposedly give them the equivalent amount in healthy foods in a box delivered to them.

For one, they will not be able to get the food the want.

And other, it would obviously cost taxpayer money to set up a shop and delivery system to do this.

This surely won't happen but the idea will be used as a political tool to say that they tried something.

This is Republicans wanting more government involvement and taking away individual freedom.

30 to 40 White House officials and administration political appointees are still operating without full security clearances.

And they have access to classified information.

No way I could get an interview at NSA without full clearance.

DiscoGary wrote:

Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:

More alternative facts Gary? That's 2 in the last 2 pages:

1) Obama said Russia didn't interfere with our elections and

2) Donna Brazille said Hillary Clinton made up/started the Trump-Russia collusion to fix election story.

Do you ever care to cite your "alternative facts" ?

No wonder you love Trump. Just like him, you just say stuff, without a bit of regard for whether or not it is even remotely true or not.

What a way to live your life, to be so incredibly immune to reality, have no regard for facts, and to love the damaging power of lies.

1) It wasn't Brazille. ...

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2) You guys got nothing but bitterness and lies.

http://yournewswire.com/obama-russia-did-not-hack-elections/

Ok, Gary just because you type a swarm of words and throw down links to absurdly misleading edits of quotes doesn't mean you weren't proven wrong, because you were, yet again.

1) You admit you pulled the Brazille thing out of your a$$.

a) the book you now say was the real source of your claim, also does not say what you say it says (what a shock, huh?). Your statement was:

- Delusional/Deplorable Gary:

"Hillary Clinton *invented* the Russian *Collusion* scandal within 24 hours of losing"

- What book actually claims: Clinton, within 24 hours of losing BLAMED her loss on Russian *interference*, which could have included *possible hacking* of voting systems, while also blaming Comey and FBI (their late decision to reopen her e-mail case), the press for hammering away at her about e-mails, and Obama for not being more public about known attempts by Russia to meddle in election in favor of Trump.

Those are 2 completely different things and you know it. She didn't invent anything, and the book does not even mention her blaming Trump's supposed *collusion*, just blaming Russian interference, which is a well known fact.

So you're wrong.....again.

2) You are still desperately trying to claim that:

" Obama said Russia didn't *INTERFERE* with our elections"

Despite a link to an absurdly edited-to-mislead source, the actual interview used as the source of the claim in no way backs up that claim of yours. Obama does specifically say that there is no evidence that our vote tallies were tampered with, i.e., voting machines/systems were hacked successfully to change vote totals. That is a very specific claim. He of course goes into depth discussing Russian INTERFERENCE in our elections, completely contradicting, yet again, your claim.

Stop purposely conflating/confusing separate and distinct notions/words.

* Russian INTERFERENCE/MEDDLING in our election is one thing.

* Russia specifically HACKING OUR VOTING MACHINES is a specific type of meddling (which, BTW, there appears to be clear evidence that they made attempts of this nature)

* Trump purposefully COLLUDING/ASSISTING with those INTERFERENCE efforts is another.

* Trump OBSTRUCTING investigations looking into those Russian interference efforts and/or his role in encouraging or assisting those meddling efforts is yet another.

You know also this, and in fact make those distinctions when it suits you (which it often does).

You, Donald Trump, and so many on the right have a complete disregard for facts and the truth. I've completely crushed your lies again, and you know it.

L L wrote:

30 to 40 White House officials and administration political appointees are still operating without full security clearances.

And they have access to classified information.

No way I could get an interview at NSA without full clearance.

Do we have a Democrat here complaining about the way Republicans handle classified information? Wow.

You are in no position to do that.

PIO! wrote:

Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:

More alternative facts Gary? That's 2 in the last 2 pages:

Obama said Russia didn't interfere with our elections and Donna Brazille said Hillary Clinton made up/started the Trump-Russia collusion to fix election story.

Do you ever care to cite your "alternative facts" ?

No wonder you love Trump. Just like him, you just say stuff, without a bit of regard for whether or not it is even remotely true or not.

What a way to live your life, to be so incredibly immune to reality, have no regard for facts, and to love the damaging power of lies.

It is the mark of Satan.

LOL

Well, in honesty we do know that

Trumpettes are NOT Americans!

///

But Satan?

Just like I said.

First it was "hacking", then it was "collusion", and now it's "interference". When interference is dis-proven where do you go? Will you call it Russian "heckling"?

Disco Gary -- I appreciate that you give a good fight for the right side. But you're wasting your time arguing with lefties. These are the same people who would defend Barack Hussein or Hillary if they beheaded an infant on live television. (Actually, I should use puppy instead of human -- we all know the left has no problem killing babies.)

Anyway, let's wait and see what the Inspector General's report says when it's released next month, plus whatever justice that Jeff Sessions decides to hand out, if any.

DiscoGary wrote:

Do we have a Democrat here complaining about the way Republicans handle classified information? Wow.

You are in no position to do that.

I presented you with facts about Republican issues.

Your response is to say that those issues are fine because of how others allegedly did something.

They had access to Porter's record for over a year and were shocked at what they found out last week and then fired him.

But hen also defended him.

So his abuse was known but wasn't an issue until the public found out.

DiscoGary wrote:

Just like I said.

First it was "hacking", then it was "collusion", and now it's "interference". When interference is dis-proven where do you go? Will you call it Russian "heckling"?

My God you are either a complete imbecile or just dishonest to the nth degree.

The funny thing is, these distinctions are important to you too, but when convenient (in your dishonest attempts to claim that "Obama said no interference occurred" and "Clinton invented Trump-Russian collusion hoax day after election" and in your efforts to say Dems are always changing their terms) you purposefully conflate them.

One more time:

Charges of Russian Interference in our elections came first, and have been not in dispute by anyone with an ounce credibility (i.e., it was still disputed, as I've proven, by Trump and his right wing followers long after US intel proved it to be true. And you EVEN NOW still dispute it: " When interference is dis-proven ....." ).

Hacking systems or e-mails is a specific type of interferences. One certainly was done, the other was attempted, but no clear evidence on changing vote tallies has been proven.

Collusion between Russia and Trump/Trump officials on interference in election is one of the charges/issues being investigated. Maybe Trump did, maybe he didn't. Unlike some, I have not been insisting he did, we'll see.

Obstruction of justice is yet another category/notion, and Trump may have done this even if he didn't collude, in order to protect friends/family/associates, or because he knew a deep investigation into Russian interference could unearth things about his financial past (i.e. tax returns), or because he is simply paranoid, doesn't want any investigation hanging over his head.

Again, you purposefully conflate these terms, use them interchangeably when it suits your trolling/dishonest arguments, but then claim it's Dems who keep changing the meanings behind them.

One last time: NO ONE with an ounce of integrity disputes Russian interference (which included some forms of hacking). Mueller is looking into (mostly) Collusion and Obstruction charges/evidence against Trump/Trump associates. If no evidence is found by Mueller against Trump and his *close associates/family* on collusion/obstruction, or other wrongdoings (don't forget his taxes), then you can take a victory lap. Until that time, don't celebrate too early.

We're not changing terms/meanings or conflating these disctinct notions. YOU are.

L L wrote:

They had access to Porter's record for over a year and were shocked at what they found out last week and then fired him.

But hen also defended him.

So his abuse was known but wasn't an issue until the public found out.

This is all a lie. According to Dr. Sebastian Gorka and the Honorable Judge Jeanine Pirro, Obama and the Deep State are to blame for the Porter scandal. He was a plant designed to undermine the Trump administration. Open your eyes, sheeple. The Deep State is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very thread. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work, when you go to church, when you pay your taxes. It pulls a fantasy world over your eyes to blind you from the truth: that Donald Trump is a great president and conservatives are right about everything so just shuddup already stupid libs, god!

RobertM wrote:

Disco Gary -- I appreciate that you give a good fight for the right side.

He's not giving a "good fight", he's being a dishonest dimwit troll. Oh right, in right wing world, that's "giving a good fight" for your side (see: Donald Trump).

RobertM wrote:But you're wasting your time arguing with lefties. These are the same people who would defend Barack Hussein or Hillary if they beheaded an infant on live television. (Actually, I should use puppy instead of human -- we all know the left has no problem killing babies.)

Actually it was Donald Trump that said ""I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters."

And he's right. You dishonest, deplorable idiots would support him if he murdered innocent people in front of 1000's. HE said it. He's right.

(and nice try with the abortion touch- everyone knows right wingers are complete lying hypocrites on the subject: most don't care one iota for the "unborn", they just use the topic as a cudgel against Dems, and as soon as they get their mistresses pregnant, they run right to the nearest abortion clinic.

Even Trump said he considered an abortion for one child

" 'Pregnant? What are we going to do about this?' he asked"

Just like R's don't care about the debt, R's mostly don't care about abortion. It's all lies/hypocrisy to try and hammer Dems on, and convince gullible right wingers that they do)

DiscoGary wrote:

L L wrote:

30 to 40 White House officials and administration political appointees are still operating without full security clearances.

And they have access to classified information.

No way I could get an interview at NSA without full clearance.

Do we have a Democrat here complaining about the way Republicans handle classified information? Wow.

You are in no position to do that.

I am indeed in a position to complain about that. I was not happy with Hillary's carelessness and the IT person who set up her system should be sued for malpractice.

The level of government secrets going through Hillary's server was quite low, both in security level and in volume. In other words, the secrets that made it to this server were not of high classification, and there wasn't very much of it. Still, I don't like it at all.

But the Trump administration has taken recklessness to a whole new level. If someone can't get a clearance after a whole year, it probably means that person can't be trusted. The Trump administration knows full well that they have a major security problem. They have known this for a very long time and they have done nothing about it. Yet, they continue allowing corruptible personnel handle our nation's most highly classified, most sensitive material every day.

Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:

And he's right. You dishonest, deplorable idiots would support him if he murdered innocent people in front of 1000's. HE said it. He's right.

You're being ridiculous. He was being facetious and you know it.

What isn't facetious is the left's gleeful promotion of abortion, mostly of minority infants. Not to mention the fact that you and your fellow Dems/Antifa have assaulted countless peaceful Trump supporters at rallies, tried to murder an entire Republican baseball team, attacked (and broke a half dozen ribs) of a Republican Senator, and sent a potentially threatening "white substance" (ie. fake anthrax) to the President's family.

Just because we deplorable idiots aren't as enlightened and intelligent as you doesn't mean you need to keep trying to exterminate us.

The party of tolerance indeed.

Considering that your "peaceful protesters" aka Nazis have murdered more people in America than ISIS or any other political group combined in the past few years, and given the fact that antifa has murdered no one, the real danger to society is people like you who continue to defend Nazism. There is nothing peaceful about a group of protesters whose freedom of speech is expressing their right to send Jews, LGBTs, minorities to the ovens and gas chambers. In fact, that is not protected speech under the Constitution any more than threatening the POTUS or yelling "FIRE!" in a movie theater or "BOMB!" on an airplane. And as for your "gleeful promotion of abortion" nonsense, that's garbage. Find a link to support that, you can't. However if someone rapes your wife, I'm sure you'd sing a different tune if she got preggers.

JetsNationofTX wrote:

You're being ridiculous. He was being facetious and you know it.

What isn't facetious is the left's gleeful promotion of abortion, mostly of minority infants. Not to mention the fact that you and your fellow Dems/Antifa have assaulted countless peaceful Trump supporters at rallies, tried to murder an entire Republican baseball team, attacked (and broke a half dozen ribs) of a Republican Senator, and sent a potentially threatening "white substance" (ie. fake anthrax) to the President's family.

Just because we deplorable idiots aren't as enlightened and intelligent as you doesn't mean you need to keep trying to exterminate us.

The party of tolerance indeed.

JetsNationofTX wrote:

You're being ridiculous.

What isn't facetious is the left's gleeful promotion of abortion, mostly of minority infants. Not to mention the fact that you and your fellow Dems/Antifa have assaulted countless peaceful Trump supporters at rallies, tried to murder an entire Republican baseball team, attacked (and broke a half dozen ribs) of a Republican Senator, and sent a potentially threatening "white substance" (ie. fake anthrax) to the President's family.

Just because we deplorable idiots aren't as enlightened and intelligent as you doesn't mean you need to keep trying to exterminate us.

The party of tolerance indeed.

Let's set the record straight:

* Dems are never gleeful about abortion. We all wish it were more rare, and some Dems like me are staunchly pro-life.

* Almost all Dems despise Antifa. But the number of people assaulted by Antifa is not countless. It's a very small number that should be easily countable.

* The guy who attacked the baseball team is disgusting and strange. But it's even more strange that he was a liberal. In the US, people who turn to gun violence for political ends are almost always conservative Republicans or conservative Muslims.

* There is no indication that the attack on Rand Paul was politically motivated. These guys were neighbors who had worked together in the past.

* We have no idea who sent the white substance to the Trumps. I'm sure all Dems agree that whoever did it should be locked up.