Rojo says he might start a Kip Litton thread but only 1 and only 1 thread

Hmm, back up again. And it looks like the last post before it went down (unless a bunch were deleted again) is another one questioning whether this supposed work-in-progress is ever going to see the light of day.

Odd. Last time there was questioning of it, the thread went down, and a bunch of posts were scrubbed. That was right around when clarkson kent went from "what have I done to make anyone skeptical" to "ok, I've been posting as both scotth and clarkson kent, and the story I'e implied I'm in control of was actually started by me, but is now being written by someone else, but I'll keep implying I have control over when and where it's coming"

This is a wierd threrad. I keep coming back every few days to find out the latest twist, and am rarely disapointed.

I love this thread! I am from MI and have personally met the man. He's a celebrity but certainly not in a good way.

Everyone, keep it up!!

Mods,

You know what to do. "Pull it"

Kip, nice try but a lot easier to just delete the off-topic posts until the trolls get bored.

scotthkent wrote:

Mods,

You know what to do. "Pull it"

Why? Nobody on this thread is bashing him as a person. Saying this story is crazy is pretty much an accurate description.

kip has been on here posting...watch out

So what's wrong with this FREAK? does anyone know him on a personal level???

dd is right. The kip story was fascinating, but now it's been stretched out by these clowns who claim to be writing a BIG story for a BIG publication. They say, patience, wait, it's coming. Yeah right. That talk wouldn't cut it at work or in school.

what he said wrote:

dd is right. The kip story was fascinating, but now it's been stretched out by these clowns who claim to be writing a BIG story for a BIG publication. They say, patience, wait, it's coming. Yeah right. That talk wouldn't cut it at work or in school.

Clowns? Silly boy.

Another instance of a guy trying to kip a marathon..

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1068294--runner-disqualified-from-marathon-after-taking-bus-to-complete-course

dd wrote:

Odd. Last time there was questioning of it, the thread went down, and a bunch of posts were scrubbed. That was right around when clarkson kent went from "what have I done to make anyone skeptical" to "ok, I've been posting as both scotth and clarkson kent, and the story I'e implied I'm in control of was actually started by me, but is now being written by someone else, but I'll keep implying I have control over when and where it's coming"

This is a wierd threrad. I keep coming back every few days to find out the latest twist, and am rarely disapointed.

Relax friend, I'll tell what's weird - your reading comprehension. People here are living in a 'I want it NOW world'. I have no control over when the story appears and have never said I did. There haven't been any twists of any substance in quite a while.

And, I don't know why the thread goes down or why posts get deleted. I have no inside info. Bottom line is, Kip is a serial cheat of a Magnitude 10 and we'll probably never learn why he's been living the lie so long.

what he said wrote:

dd is right. The kip story was fascinating, but now it's been stretched out by these clowns who claim to be writing a BIG story for a BIG publication. They say, patience, wait, it's coming. Yeah right. That talk wouldn't cut it at work or in school.

Assuming that there's not going to be a story, what's your point, what difference does it make, and what would you propose to do about it?

Scott/clarkson-

I've read and understood all you've written- no comprehension problems here. I've also never asked you to hurry up with the story- I've just stated that I'll be skeptical about it's existance until it comes out (remember- that was when you [then writing as clarkson kent] came out with "what have I done to make you skeptical?").

You seem to be having the comprehension issue- you think that a reassuring post/offer to email you should make me take everything you say as gospel. Also, in the past (the deleted post section) I laid out the various times you/clarkson made statements that certainly implied that you had control over the story (paraphrasing here: I'll do things on my own time...I don't owe anyone here anything...just wrapping up a few loose ends...etc). So this "I have no control over when the story appears and have never said I did" bit is pretty funny. I don't feel like going through all the posts again to find those quotes, but you know they're in there.

Don't bother trying to tell me that it's coming soon, patience, etc. I'll believe it when I see it. Perhaps I'll copy this text so I don't have to type the same thing every 3 months as this drags on (and since it will possibly be deleted).

Well how come you are not using your real name...????

A sub-3 on an indoor track is not as easy as it seems. Cheating on one of these seems absolutely impossible. Goshen had chip timing/lap counting with a back-up mat. Also, all the sub 4 hour runners had personal lap counters as yet another fail safe.

I'd like to know if Kip has a really sneaky way of pulling off an indoor marathon cheat, or if he is doing this one legit to prove that he's a sub-3.

d2xccoach Couple questions and points

ive done vcm in 10 and 11 - after the final? mat at mile 20, near the end of the small inner 'hood loop, seems 30+ min would be plenty to get in a car or even bike on that main route the loop exits onto, trek back to the finish line about 3 miles south while the runners continue north for another 1+ miles before heading back.

diff ? for my info - i was several of runners missing a halfway split. always wonder why often see top runners missing mid-race splits - would think more likely to see the mid packers missing splits when several dozen runners crossing mat at once - not when its a small pack of lead runners.

none of this anwsers how kip manages to hit the mats on schedule. especially boston last year when, i believe, his 5k splits were very consistent EXCEPT for the ONE split from 20k to half where the pace went from 6:3x to 8:x - I believe - the only mats soo close there no way to advance himself off course - makes no sense.

finally on the topic of DQ .. at this years meeting the usual race rules overview seemed to touch upoun cheating without mentioning a specific incident or person. my recollection from that talk was someone really needed a bib# of that runner you felt broke a rule.

W wrote:

Assuming that there's not going to be a story, what's your point, what difference does it make, and what would you propose to do about it?

Let me guess. You are Dip Shitton DDS himself?

To the people who are complaining about things they don't like (articles coming out, the alleged pointlessness of this thread) - why don't you do yourself and us a favour and stop reading this thread?

Look people: there IS AN ARTICLE. I know from speaking to Clarkston Kent aka ScottH.

I think the people raising questions in this thread that there isnt an article might be Kip himself. Do we think Kip is capable of this kind of stuff?

I think so. Why? Here's some good evidence that Kip tried to cover all this up. Remember when KIP created a few fake character accounts on athlinks to help cover the fake marathons (West Wyoming,etc)? Well Back in Jan 2011, when this thread was just brewing, and we were posting to this long thread, in an attempt to coverup his cheating, Kip (or one of Kip's supporter) almost instantaneously created a fake athlinks guy who posted this to the wall of another runner at West Wyoming [quoted from SOKLR on pg 14 or 15 of this thread]: "

Kevin Leddy wrote at 11:02 PM Jan 11:

Hi Joel, How did you like the West Wyoming Marathon? I see the website is down. I will be vacationing out there this year around that time Do you think they will run it next year? Thanks, Kevin"

Read more:

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=3863010&page=14#ixzz1aebEmayf

"

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=3863010&page=14

I'm telling you this guy (KIP LITTON) pulls out all the tricks - never ceases to amaze me - not just on the race course, not just with the fake races, but pulling out all the stops to throw investigators at letsrun.com off his tracks. Look at what he (or a Kip supporter) did. He TRIED TO MAKE US THINK THAT THERE WAS A LEGIT REASON FOR WHY THE WEST WYOMING website was down. Yes, the real reason was the friggin race doesn't exist and Kip pulled it & it was hosted on the same IP address as Kip's dental site. SOKLR has a copy of it in Google Cache and it charges $40/person for registration. And to those of you still skeptical, well the WWY marathon results have been confirmed false by marathonguide.com

Now this is why I believe It's not ridiculous for you all to suspect Kip has been on here a few times over the last 10-15pgs trying to throw our investigation off track. THis guy named Kip seems to have really shown he's truly slippery.